Martin is going to write an email, but the town hall meeting proposal was tabled after some great feedback from GA. Not sure about the letter. I hope it went out. Martin will talk more about this but our mission now is to stop talking about Menino and start talking about our issues. The more we remind people what our mission is, the more they will support our physical occupation. We don't need to talk about tents to save the tents. Let's remind people who we are. There are some different ways we can do this, but it's all about strategy.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Terra Friedrichs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:terraf@compuserve.com">terraf@compuserve.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<u></u>
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
I think Deb's asking two questions:<br>
<br>
1. did the letter go out?<br>
<br>
2. did the Town Meeting invite go out?<br>
<br>
Or some status on each. Two separate, but related things...<br>
<br>
T<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On 12/6/2011 9:41 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><font color="#3333ff"><b>I really see this framing and
response as two fold, two prong - the letter (which is strong
and on point) and the Town Hall. I assumed from Martin's
posts that it was all taken care of - that it was emailed and
mailed to Menino & because</b></font> <font color="#3333ff"><b>it is an "Open Letter" it went down and out
the "press shute" - could someone please let me know and
confirm? Also, what is the status of the Town Meeting idea
which is strong, strong outreach and framing? Deb Sirotkin
Butler</b></font> <br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Deborah
Sirotkin Butler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amberpaw@gmail.com" target="_blank">amberpaw@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<b style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">+1</b> and thank you,
Martin. Any student organization that is supportive or any
student (my understanding) should be able to schedule this at
"their school". <br>
<br>
Deb Sirotkin Butler<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m2@occupyboston.org" target="_blank">m2@occupyboston.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
<div> I will take point on this. <br>
<br>
Who can help help me draft a short and sweet proposal
to GA. But i think this should be an announcement not
a proposal. <br>
<br>
and yes MassArt, Tuffs, Northeastern... a univ is a
great setting. (that way the city can't cancel the
venue, city council auditorium, on us. <br>
<br>
</div>
yes OB MUST be the host of this town hall and Tommy Boy
just might come. why rule him out. unlike Bloomberg his
is not entirely a complete and utterly worthless putrid
sack of vulture shit. let's hope for the best.<b style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"> +10</b>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
as far as facilitation: <br>
<br>
1. we have a entire facilitation team. <br>
2. more importantly we have professional
facilitators (I <u><b>VERY</b></u> strongly support
using professional facilitators for this) <br>
<br>
Cheers <br>
<div>
<div> <br>
martin <br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/6/11 4:39 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Agree that there needs to be a large,
indoor venue. Maybe at MassArt, or one of
the schools (like that other large meeting)
or? Developing spaces for such meetings is,
I think, important and becoming urgent. The
host has to be OB, and it is also democracy
in action to bring the idea of this Town
Hall w/Menino to the GA. If I can, I will
manage to attend that one. My life can be
rather complex, though - two client's
children who are in state care were suddenly
hospitalized this week, just for example of
the unexpected that can "trump" my plans. I
should not be "#1" on anything but I can
write, monitor SHNS and other things, and
contribute - hope that is enough.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>AND...he might just come. He is all
about his legacy now, IMHO.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Deborah Sirotkin Butler <br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2011
at 4:14 PM, Elias Feghali <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:efeghali@gmail.com" target="_blank">efeghali@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)" class="gmail_quote">Martin, this is a
great idea. Maybe he would come. Let's not
make assumptions. More importantly, this
is could be an important venue to have a
larger dialogue with greater community --
regardless if he shows.
<div> <br>
</div>
<div>I have serious concerns
about facilitation and how it would
actually go down. Let's keep thinking
about this and bring other groups into
the mix, if you're serious. It would
take a lot of work. Let's not rush
things.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I feel like a formal statement
inviting the Mayor to a GA needs to go
through GA. Temp check on that though?
It's a nice statement.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Eli<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:07 PM,
Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m2@occupyboston.org" target="_blank">m2@occupyboston.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)" class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I do not think
Dewey is the proper place for
this at all. given that it can
only fit TOPS 150 people.
media alone would take half
the space. not to mention the
horrible idea to host these
meetings out doors in the
middle of the new England
winter. where only the crack
heads at camp and the very
hard core occupiers will show
up. <br>
<br>
this needs to be done at city
hall or a large university
auditorium. this invite is to
go to the ENTIRE city of
Boston. not just the 130 tents
a dewey. We want massive
attendace to this. <br>
<br>
and yes the open letter &
town hall invite combo are a
BRILLIANT tactic. and we host
the town hall weather Menino
comes or not if he is a no
show there is a seat with his
name tag on the table very
noticeably vacant. <br>
<span><font color="#888888"> <br>
martin <br>
</font></span>
<div>
<div> <br>
<br>
On 12/6/11 3:58 PM,
Deborah Sirotkin Butler
wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Well said, Martin.
Providential that that
GSA Audit of the
federal reserve came
out showing an
additional $16
trillion in secret
bailouts. (provided
that w/draft as a
.pdf)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The combination of
the responsive letter
AND such an
invite/town hall at
Dewey is a BRILLIANT
and effective idea.
+1</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Deb Sirotkin Butler</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at
3:45 PM, Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m2@occupyboston.org" target="_blank">m2@occupyboston.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)" class="gmail_quote">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Team, <br>
<br>
why don't we send
Menino asking for
his help in taking
on the right
targets. how can
he work with the
citizens, whom he
has a duty to
serve, to take on
the abuses of
power from
congress, the fed
and the big
banks? or at
least join us for
a town hall, where
ALL of Boston is
invited, to
discuss these
issues. <br>
<br>
most likely he
will ignore it or
decline/refuse.
best case scenario
he agrees and a
city conversation
is started. let's
do this not as a
challenge but as
an invitation
given his own
words that we
should aim at the
right target. <br>
<br>
cheers <br>
<br>
martin
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 12/6/11
11:20 AM,
Deborah
Sirotkin
Butler wrote:
</div>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div><b>As a
practical
matter, while
it may well
"feel" like
Occupy is
"aiming" at
mayors, it is
not the
reality. It
is true that
Occupy is like
a "thorn" in
their side due
to the very
visibility
that makes
this movement
<i>different.</i></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><i>As
the GAO audit
of the Fed,
reported that
was just
issued makes
clear, mayors
and everyone
else was
robbed of $16
trillion
dollars (I
have attached
the report)
for those
interested).</i></b></div>
<div><b><i>So
I strongly,
strongly
suggest a
response be
done, ASAP and
provide a
first draft
& that
this be done
as an "open
letter" that
also is on the
website, the
facebook page,
and possibly
released with
a brief PR. </i></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><i>This
should be done
and go out
TODAY as this
SHNS story
went to ALL
newspapers
across the
state, all
legislators,
etc.</i></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><i>Deb
Sirotkin
Butler</i></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><font color="#3333ff">Open Letter to The Honorable Thomas M. Menino</font></b></div>
<div><b><font color="#3333ff">(address)</font></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><font color="#3333ff">Dear Mayor Minino:</font></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><font color="#3333ff">Occupy Boston appreciates the location, services and
hospitality
received to
date at Dewey
Square. The
Dewey Square
location in
the financial
district
across from
the Boston
Federal
Reserve is
critical to
our core
message, which
is the
pillaging of
the United
States and its
citizens by
the banking
industry, with
the collusion
of the Federal
Reserve Bank.
In fact, just
recently in
the first-ever
audit of the
Federal
Reserve
System, a $16
trillion
transfer
without over
sight, no
strings
attached was
uncovered from
the Federal
Reserve Bank
to private
banks, most of
them overseas.</font></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><font color="#3333ff">While it may feel as if as a mayor you are targeted, in
fact, our
survival as a
country is at
stake, our
target is the
preservation
of American
Democracy, and
we ask for
your
cooperation in
making Occupy
Boston all it
can be as part
of this
critical
effort. That
includes
winterization,
sanitation,
and a good
working
relationship
to those ends
so that Occupy
Boston can
continue to
fight for the
liberty and
financial
security of
not just
Boston, not
just
Massachusetts,
but the United
States of
America while
keeping the
light and
media and
citizenry
focused on the
depredations
by the banking
industry with
the collusion
of Congress.</font></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><font color="#3333ff">Respectfully:</font></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><font color="#3333ff">[signature bloc]</font></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><b><font color="#cc0000">I am due in a hearing in Lowell at noon, so have to zoom
off, so I
apologize is
this is
rought, but I
HAD to take
time to give
you all this
heads up -
PLEASE grab
the ball and
run with it!!!</font></b></div>
<div> </div>
<div><br>
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Date: Tue, Dec
6, 2011 at
10:32 AM<br>
Subject:
MENINO: OCCUPY
SUPPORTERS
‘AIMING THEIR
FIRE AT THE
WRONG PLACE’<br>
To: <a href="mailto:NEWS@statehousenews.com" target="_blank">NEWS@statehousenews.com</a><br>
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<font face="Arial" size="2">MENINO:
OCCUPY
SUPPORTERS
‘AIMING THEIR
FIRE AT THE
WRONG PLACE’<br>
<br>
By Kyle Cheney<br>
STATE HOUSE
NEWS SERVICE<br>
<br>
STATE HOUSE,
BSOTON, DEC.
6,
2011…..Boston
Mayor Thomas
Menino on
Tuesday
chastised
backers of the
Occupy Wall
Street
movement for
training their
anger at
municipal
leaders rather
than Congress,
and the
accused the
group of a
scattershot
message that
would benefit
from taking on
a single
issue.<br>
<br>
“Mayors can’t
do much about
what they’re
talking about.
It’s the
Congress and
the Senate but
nobody’s
talking to
them at all.
They come at
mayors,”
Menino told
reporters
after speaking
at a Greater
Boston Chamber
of Commerce
breakfast at
the Fairmont
Copley Hotel.
“Mayors can’t
make decisions
on banks’
regulations.
Mayors can’t
make decisions
on
scholarships.
Mayors can’t
make decisions
on housing.
It’s all down
in Washington.
They’re aiming
their fire at
the wrong
place.<br>
<br>
Menino’s
remarks came
as he awaits a
judge’s
decision that
will clarify
whether he has
the power to
evict Occupy
Boston
protesters
from their
long-held
encampment in
Dewey Square,
at the heart
of Boston’s
financial
district.<br>
<br>
Menino said he
hasn’t assumed
the outcome of
the Suffolk
Superior Court
Judge Frances
McIntyre’s
decision yet,
but he
questioned the
Occupy
movement’s
tactics.<br>
<br>
“If they had
one issue, I
believe they
could be a
very powerful
operation.
They don’t
have one
issue, they
have several
issues,” he
said. “Those
several issues
are issues
that middle
America cares
about. Until
you focus on
one … you’re
not going to
have many
wins.”<br>
<br>
Critics of the
Occupy
movement –
which has
branded itself
as a voice to
protest
economic
inequality and
a political
and financial
system rigged
to benefit the
wealthiest,
best-connected
Americans –
argue that
protesters
haven’t
offered a
clear
solution.
Menino’s
criticism
echoes similar
remarks
offered by
former
Republican
presidential
primary
contender
Herman Cain,
who suggested
that
protesters aim
their anger at
government,
rather than at
the financial
industry.<br>
<br>
Menino’s
comments also
come as mayors
in other
cities are
grappling with
how to handle
Occupy
protests of
their own. The
protesters
have primarily
set up camp in
major downtown
areas, and
critics argue
they present a
public health
and public
safety hazard.
Menino, whose
police
commissioner
Ed Davis
attended the
breakfast,
said he shared
those
concerns.<br>
<br>
Judge McIntyre
said she would
rule on
Menino’s
authority to
remove
protesters.
She has
indicated her
ruling would
come by the
end of next
week.<br>
<br>
-END-<br>
12/6/2011<br>
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