[Ob-media-multi] [Ob-media-external] [Ob-media] IMPORTANT: Cancelling Today's Meeting and an Important Conversation to Come About the Structure of Media WG
Gregory Murphy
gsjmurphy at gmail.com
Tue Apr 17 15:26:56 EDT 2012
yes, sitting an talking is good . . . email is a tough medium, as we know .
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Jorge Alvarez <eghm627 at mac.com> wrote:
> I have to agree, but I don't think it's being done in a nefarious manner.
>
> Greg, and he must speak for himself, is attempting to hold us all
> accountable.
>
> But I don't think he and others are as sensitive as they could
> potentially be to how oppressively they are acting towards their comrades
> in attempting to counteract oppression. It's a very difficult balancing act
> and he admittedly says we're in difficult and uncharted territory.
>
> Aggressive indictments of power insularity, oppression and equity can be
> used as a bludgeon and I think that is what some of us (at GAs, FWG, Media,
> et al.) are feeling.
>
> Sometimes, even as a Hispanic man who grew up in modest means, I feel
> oppressed by Anti-Oppression as recently at OB.
>
> Greg, we all have to sit and talk about this.
>
> This thread should go out widely, but I don't know how to not spam people
> who don't desire to be part of this conversation or even if it's
> appropriate.
>
> With peace,
> Jorge
> eghm627 at mac.com
>
> This email was composed on my IPhone. Please excuse any errors.
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Joshua - I think it is this kind of comment and this kind of perception
> which is causing so many to want to quit, when we see ourselves not as a
> "power center' but as infrastructure, and serving a community. Deb
> Sirotkin Butler
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Joshua Eaton <jeaton at post.harvard.edu>wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure I appreciate the suggestion that Media has become an
>> "insular power center."
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Gregory Murphy <gsjmurphy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> it's a fascinating study - the insular power centers in OB which
>>> inadvertently and unintentionally develop as we dedicate ourselves to doing
>>> the best job possible, yet often end up replicating the dominant structures
>>> we assembled to oppose - this horizontal democracy stuff sure is
>>> challenging!
>>>
>>> GM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
>>> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to cancelimg today's Media meeting. Maybe a focused GA to
>>>> facilitate the evolution of OB media like the GA that focused on FAWG would
>>>> be good horizontal democracy to best handle those. As for me I have felt
>>>> honored to ne part of the hard working and under appreciated media wg
>>>> Deb amberpaw on droid
>>>> On Apr 14, 2012 12:29 PM, "Dan" <dcheeno at occupyboston.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon Media WG,
>>>>>
>>>>> As many of you may already be aware, several members of Media WG have,
>>>>> over the past few days, discovered that we possess a shared sense of
>>>>> dissatisfaction at the work that we do as a working group. Furthermore,
>>>>> the Occupy Boston community has, to varying degrees, repeatedly expressed
>>>>> discomfort and frustration with our work; some groups and members of the
>>>>> community, in particular, have indicated that they feel disempowered by the
>>>>> current structures and policies that empower us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over the past few days, conversations have ranged from: a desire
>>>>> amongst several of us to simply step back; to an idea of creating an
>>>>> unmanaged infrastructure that empowers working groups; to suggestions that
>>>>> Media WG be dissolved in the hopes that the wider Occupy Boston community
>>>>> could find a satisfactory way to manage Media WG's resources and access
>>>>> (and enough of us may want to step back that it would be unfair to leave
>>>>> those who don't want to step back to take on so much). The point is,
>>>>> though, that many of us feel that we ought to / want to step back or
>>>>> significantly restructure the working group to address the concerns of the
>>>>> working group's members and of the OB community--and that, no matter what,
>>>>> a significant change is coming that will affect you, the working group, and
>>>>> the entire community.
>>>>>
>>>>> The purpose of this email, then, is to inform you (and, we realize,
>>>>> the entire community) that these conversations about things not really
>>>>> working for anyone are happening and to invite you to be a part of them at
>>>>> our next working group meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime, today is a busy day and, because of the dismantling
>>>>> of Camp Charlie and Andy's service, it seems that the most appropriate
>>>>> thing to do at this late hour is to cancel today's meeting. Temp check?
>>>>>
>>>>> If today's regularly scheduled meeting is cancelled, though, it still
>>>>> seems that conversations about the role of Media WG are in order, and
>>>>> several of us will likely be around at Camp Charlie to have those
>>>>> conversations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>> Occupy Boston Media WG resources:
>>>>>
>>>>> Meeting Agendas: http://bit.ly/GViUlx
>>>>> Meeting Action Items: http://bit.ly/H8GydP
>>>>>
>>>>> Media Request Log: http://bit.ly/H2jzM3
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