<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div>I'm not sure why the focus is on how to reuse money spent. </div><div><br></div><div>If you want solar panels, why dont we raise money for them, or ask the GA for money from the general fund?</div><div><br></div><div>I understand wanting to use the money we spent on the generator, but the donors are all Internet based. We cannot ask the donors anything without blessing of the GA, and we may not be playing 'nice' forever with authorities. A diesel generator may be essential for sustaining the occupation going forward if things turn bad in Boston. </div><div><br>Thank You!<div><br></div><div>Matthew Krawitz</div><div>(617) 909-7338</div></div><div><br>On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Sage Radachowsky <<a href="mailto:sage.radachowsky@gmail.com">sage.radachowsky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>What form was the fundraising? Perhaps we can contact the donors and ask if they're okay with us changing to renewables .... if it is not possible to contact them, then I would assume they're okay with it, as any reasonable person supporting our cause would probably be.<div>
<br></div><div>We may have some solar panel donations, I hear, and if we buy them, they are around $3 per watt in these quantities ... then we can buy a couple more charge controllers to squeeze the max power from the panels and protect the batteries, and I think we can install 250 to 400 Watts of solar power for this price -- that is probably only 6 hours per day of good sunlight in our financial canyon, but that is a lot and can light our camp at night with 12 Volt LED lighting!</div>
<div><br>Sage</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Matthew Krawitz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthewk@krawnet.com">matthewk@krawnet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>If we (GA too) can come to consensus. Great! I don't stand in the way of anything which we all agree is cool! :)<div class="im">
<br><br>Thank You!<div><br></div><div>Matthew Krawitz</div><div><a href="tel:%28617%29%20909-7338" value="+16179097338" target="_blank">(617) 909-7338</a></div></div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Ted Moallem <<a href="mailto:ted.moallem@gmail.com" target="_blank">ted.moallem@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>I don't think that returning/selling the diesel generator in order to fund alternative power generators would betray the trust of the donors. The objective is a practicable way to power OccBos. </p>
<p>Ted</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 6, 2011 1:16 PM, "Matthew Krawitz" <<a href="mailto:matthewk@krawnet.com" target="_blank">matthewk@krawnet.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>The money was raised to directly fund a generator. It was decided at the time of purchase by FAWG to not betray the trust of the donors and divert funds to other projects. </div><div><br></div>
<div>I don't know if it's returnable. I would doubt it though. The total cost of the genny was about $1,200.</div><div><br>Thank You!<div><br></div><div>Matthew Krawitz</div><div><a href="tel:%28617%29%20909-7338" value="+16179097338" target="_blank">(617) 909-7338</a></div>
</div><div><br>On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Sage Radachowsky <<a href="mailto:sage.radachowsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">sage.radachowsky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
(oops -- Forwarding to the list ... ) <div>
<br></div><div>Another question -- how much did the generator cost and if we wished to use the money for solar panels is it returnable?</div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Sage Radachowsky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sage.radachowsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">sage.radachowsky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Matthew,<div><br></div><div>Thanks ... I have some questions.</div><div><br></div><div>Is this the same generator that IBEW was donating? Was there a We-Pay donate button for a diesel generator on the Occupy Boston website for a time? I don't recall it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I heard the IBEW generator was not going to come in. Not to be a wet blanket, but I was happy about that personally. I want to be as green as possible and use our given resources, and not hear the noise / exhaust of a diesel motor (even if burning biodiesel) ... that is my feeling but not shared by everyone.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I can get more details on the IBEW generator today if you like, but will be away from my computer so please call <a href="tel:617%20406%208842" value="+16174068842" target="_blank">617 406 8842</a> if you want me to seek info for you.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>
Sage</div><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:44 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dana@occupyboston.org" target="_blank">dana@occupyboston.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:14:05 -0400 [11/05/2011 04:14:05 PM EST]<br>
From: Matthew Krawitz <<a href="mailto:matthewk@krawnet.com" target="_blank">matthewk@krawnet.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:dana@occupyboston.org" target="_blank">dana@occupyboston.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: OB Generator fund<br>
Hi Dana:<br>
<br>
I have a 6,000 watt diesel generator purchased with donated funds boxed and sitting on a pallet in my driveway. I have been told the fire/police authorities have indicated that NO combustable devices are permitted on site. I have been working (with very little luck) to find a way around this "rule".<br>
<br>
The funds you're referring to are actually <a href="http://wepay.com" target="_blank">wepay.com</a> (not kickstarter) accounts, and check out the <a href="http://ocupyboston.org" target="_blank">ocupyboston.org</a> homepage for info on the wind turbines. The diesel wepay fund is now closed (as we bought the genny).<br>
<br>
I just subscribed to the energy list, but it requires moderator approval... would you please forward this to the list, along with my contact info so people can ask questions?<br>
<br>
Matthew Krawitz<br>
@NEFreedomRide - twitter<br>
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