[Street] [Occupybostonoutreach] THUR, 17th, MoveOn.org Canvassing for 11/17/11 March

Joseph Ramsey jgramsey at gmail.com
Sat Nov 12 13:16:57 EST 2011


I share Eden's mixed emotions about MoveOn.org climbing on this 99% train.

Cetainly it is a promising sign of the breadth and depth of support for the
99% movement.  And certainly it is a great opportunity to build and network
and attract more people from various walks of life to the occupy movement.
All to the good.

But there are also dangers to be aware of, as Eden points to.  There is a
danger of cooptiation of message here, as large organizations with lots of
money flow into this movement.

While welcoming the participation of all people, we need to be prepared.

One way of preparing, I think is to (finally) work through GA a clear OB
Declaration of Occupation in the very near future.  So long as we lack such
a clear statement, our movment is extra vulnerable to being "spoken for" by
groups like Moveon, which have their own message well-crafted to their
(establishment liberal) purposes.
Don't get me wrong, I think our movement is plenty strong; it's not like a
MOveon is going to sweep us to the side.  But still, as pro-Democratic
party groups come into the mix, we need to give attention to maintaining
our integrity and an independent political and social movement.

-Joe
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:48 AM, <Eden at akashic.com> wrote:

> While I do not support MoveOn whole heartedly, believeing they gently move
> progressives to the center, they attract a huge following. I pass this on
> to show there will be people out and open to joining NOV 17th, from a wider
> demographic than we have seen as of yet. Some people will come to us for
> leadership, eden
>
> MoveOn.org is supporting this, getting a lot of coverage from the middle
> 99%
> Synopsis: In less than two weeks, the Super Committee will unveil their
> deficit reduction plan. And instead of focusing on creating jobs and making
> the rich pay their fair share, all indications are that *Congress will
> once again protect the 1% at the expense of the 99%—unleashing up to $1.2
> trillion in vicious, job-killing cuts that could hit Medicare, Social
> Security, and other programs the middle class relies on.*
> We've got just 12 days left to stop them—and our only chance is massive,
> coordinated action to let them know we will not stand for more of the same
> disastrous policies.
> *So we're joining with Occupy Wall Street, and progressive allies like
> SEIU, AFL-CIO, and many more for a "We Are the 99%" day of action on
> November 17. *Together, we'll demand that Congress and the Super
> Committee tax Wall Street to create millions of jobs and rebuild our
> economy for the 99%. But if we're going to stop this terrible deal, these
> events need to be big—really big. Can you join us?
> ...
>
> If there’s no agreement by November 23, or if Congress doesn’t pass the
> panel’s recommendations by the end of the year, it will trigger an
> enforcement mechanism comprised largely of across the board cuts to
> Medicare providers and defense and security programs, totaling $1.2
> trillion over 10 years. Those cuts would begin take effect on January 1,
> 2013.
>
> WHOLE MOveOn PASTED:
> Dear MoveOn member,
> They just don't get it. Ordinary people are rising up and demanding that
> our country work for the 99%, but Congress is still acting like nothing has
> changed.
> In less than two weeks, the Super Committee will unveil their deficit
> reduction plan. And instead of focusing on creating jobs and making the
> rich pay their fair share, all indications are that *Congress will once
> again protect the 1% at the expense of the 99%—unleashing up to $1.2
> trillion in vicious, job-killing cuts that could hit Medicare, Social
> Security, and other programs the middle class relies on.*
> We've got just 12 days left to stop them—and our only chance is massive,
> coordinated action to let them know we will not stand for more of the same
> disastrous policies.
> *So we're joining with Occupy Wall Street, and progressive allies like
> SEIU, AFL-CIO, and many more for a "We Are the 99%" day of action on
> November 17. *Together, we'll demand that Congress and the Super
> Committee tax Wall Street to create millions of jobs and rebuild our
> economy for the 99%. But if we're going to stop this terrible deal, these
> events need to be big—really big. Can you join us?
> ...(move-on links)
> Democrats on the Super Committee have already offered $500 billion in cuts
> to Medicare and Medicaid, even though Republicans still refuse to raise
> taxes on the wealthy.1 And any deal that the Super Committee reaches will
> be incredibly dangerous. Part of the debt ceiling deal this summer was that
> the Super Committee's report would get a straight up-or-down vote in both
> houses of Congress immediately—making it very hard to stop once the train
> has left the station.
> Our plan for November 17 is to hold events at the very places where
> Congress could be creating jobs to get Americans back to work: crumbling
> bridges, understaffed schools, and other examples of critical
> infrastructure in disrepair. We need to remind Congress—and our fellow
> community members—that there's plenty of work that needs doing in America,
> if only Washington would focus on the right things. And we need to show
> Congress how huge the backlash will be if they push through yet another
> disastrous deal.
> Thanks for all you do.–Lenore, Joan, Ryan, Wes, and the rest of the team
> Source:
> 1. "Dems, GOP Play Super Committee Hot Potato As Talks Stall Over Taxes,"
> Talking Points Memo, November 10, 2011
> http://www.moveon.org/r?r=267546&id=32795-5199750-C9NXU9x&t=6
> by following this then, by clicking: 'One of the most recent offers, the
> details of which were leaked to the press earlier this week<http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/how-the-super-committee-reached-the-brink-of-failure.php>,
> came from Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA)' u get to:
> http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/how-the-super-committee-reached-the-brink-of-failure.php
>
> and clicking this:  'A key member of the Senate Democratic leadership
> team has openly predicted the panel will gridlock and fail<http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/schumer-predicts-super-committee-will-fail-video.php>'
> gets u to:
> u get to this:
> http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/schumer-predicts-super-committee-will-fail-video.php,
> *which is a Video*
> My beginning paste:
> *If there’s no agreement by November 23, or if Congress doesn’t pass the
> panel’s recommendations by the end of the year, it will trigger an
> enforcement mechanism comprised largely of across the board cuts to
> Medicare providers and defense and security programs, totaling $1.2
> trillion over 10 years. Those cuts would begin take effect on January 1,
> 2013.*
>
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>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Street] Canvassing for 11/17/11 March
> From: Ben Janos <occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, November 12, 2011 12:08 am
> To: street at lists.occupyboston.org
>
> Hey guys,
>
> As I'm sure you know, this Thursday, 11/17/11 is a day of action in the
> Occupy Universe. In Boston, we are going to be marching in conjunction with
> Mass Uniting in a "March for Good Jobs". There's gonna be a lot of Unions
> and other organizations involved and it should be huge.
>
> Tonight (ok, last night by now) we talked about going out and doing some
> flyering for this event. I'm going to be doing this on Monday and Wednesday
> at 5:30. It's gonna be a great way to get some practice before the Meet the
> 99% march, and also hopefully get more people involved in Occupy Boston!
> We'll meet (where else) at Gandhi and decide where we are going to flyer
> from there.
>
> The link to the march is here:
> http://massuniting.org/2011/11/04/march-for-good-jobs/
>
> Thanks!
> Ben
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