[Street] a question

Occupy Eric occupyeric at gmail.com
Fri Nov 25 12:56:04 EST 2011


Can someone help me with the conference call, please? Will there be folks
at Dewey that are working on the conference call? I don't have or know of
reliable access to a computer to be a part of these discussions.

Thanks,
Eric
On Nov 25, 2011 11:47 AM, "Daniel Mc" <danielm at occupyboston.org> wrote:

> I do think a conversation is in order about this. I can not make a
> conference call tonight but think it is important.
>
> We should really try to define for ourselves what would make this event
> SUCCESSFUL. Once that is defined, we can determine if we need to push it to
> another date.
>
> Just a side note that when we first questioned the date, Allison brought
> up the fact that pushing it off would conflict with finals for college
> students.
>
> Best,
> --
> Daniel.
> Occupy Boston Outreach Committee
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>
>
> Quoting Katie Gradowski <katie.gradowski at gmail.com>:
>
>  I'd be fine with having a conversation either by email today or by phone
>> this evening.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Brett West <heavyriser at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I think the points that Katie brings up are important and valid. It does
>>> seem to me that to have this event on Dec. 3 will require a lot of action
>>> happening this week. Everyone should read her email, but this is an
>>> attempt
>>> to summarize her main concerns:
>>>
>>> 1) *Copley square logistics* - Are we in contact with the appropriate
>>> people to ensure that we can use Copley on Dec. 3rd for this event?
>>>
>>> 2) *Legal preparations* - Do we know if civil disobedience is going to
>>> occur? Are we prepared to protect the legal wellbeing of all those who
>>> show
>>> up at Copley?
>>>
>>> 3) *Losing the injunction* - will this possible outcome pose too large a
>>> distraction for occupiers from an event on Dec. 3?
>>>
>>> 4) *Outreach* - while we have good structures in place to do effective
>>> outreach and create an awesome turnout, do we have time between now and
>>> Dec. 3 to implement them?
>>>
>>> Katie feel free to edit if I missed something.
>>>
>>> I think we need to talk to each other today to get answers to these
>>> questions. CONFERENCE CALL TONIGHT 8PM?????
>>>
>>> I would say work today assuming that it will happen on Dec. 3. If we
>>> cold-call organizations and they say its too soon, that's a hint. If they
>>> say they can do it Dec. 3rd., and then we have to push it back a week,
>>> that
>>> will probably be okay too.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm concerned about pushing the event further towards
>>> Christmas/Holidays
>>>
>>> Brett
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Katie Gradowski <
>>> katie.gradowski at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Do people think we can pull this off for December 3?
>>>>
>>>> That's not meant to derail efforts, and I don't want to spend too long
>>>> dwelling on it if the answer is no.   I'm just realizing that a lot of
>>>> the
>>>> work I meant to put into outreach last week got derailed by OWS  (along
>>>> with everything else), and that I may not be alone in feeling totally
>>>> behind the ball on next week's march and rally.    Wednesday's
>>>> conference
>>>> call left me with the distinct impression that we DO have a reasonable
>>>> organizational structure for making this march happen, but that we might
>>>> need another week and a half to pull it off.
>>>>
>>>> I think that's OK, if the answer is yes.   We don't yet have a concrete
>>>> list of groups on board for next weekend, but the wide net we've cast so
>>>> far means that it's VERY possible to reach the people we want to reach.
>>>> I'm really heartened, based on the meetings last week, that there are
>>>> good,
>>>> solid structures in place to follow up on outreach efforts with a
>>>> concrete
>>>> plan, a map, a great website, awesome flyers, etc -- but not sure that
>>>> seven days is enough time to actually DO all that, and to get everyone
>>>> involved who might want to be involved.
>>>>
>>>> Other thoughts and questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1)   There are some logistics for Copley Square which seem like they'll
>>>> take some time to negotiate   (mostly regarding music, permitting,
>>>> reaching
>>>> out to other groups who might be using the square, identifying what
>>>> those
>>>> groups are, etc)  --- at the very least, we should reach out to the
>>>> church
>>>> at copley to answer some of these questions.   As far as I'm aware, this
>>>> stuff hasn't happened yet, and needs to be part of our basic planning
>>>> for
>>>> the rally part of the event.
>>>>
>>>> 2)    Canvassing vs. direct actions -- I'm not sure what actions are
>>>> planned for the day, but especially since we are casting a wide net, it
>>>> seems VERY important that if there is any civil disobedience planned, we
>>>> make sure legal knows and are prepared to handle it.   Autonomous
>>>> action is
>>>> fine, but we should be aware of what's happening so we can make sure
>>>> everyone stays safe.
>>>>
>>>> 3)   Timing and tactics -- if we DO win the injunction, great!   If we
>>>> don't, I expect the first few days of December are going to involve
>>>> panicked last-minute meetings and bleary-eyed nights awake.   I'm wary
>>>> of
>>>> doing last-minute planning for the march and rally in conjunction with
>>>> this, when many of us are going to be suddenly faced with a myriad set
>>>> of
>>>> other things to do.
>>>>
>>>> Again -- not meant as a derail, and I don't mean to step on the toes of
>>>> people who HAVE been organizing diligently for the past two weeks -- I
>>>> got
>>>> blindsided by OTH as well, and am feeling behind on many projects, but I
>>>> realize that other people have been doing this exclusively, and may have
>>>> dealt with some of the things I raised above as concerns -- in which
>>>> case,
>>>> great!   if not, maybe we should reconsider the date?
>>>>
>>>> I'm all for going ahead with December 3, but i wanted to throw that out
>>>> there in case other people are feeling slightly panicked about how
>>>> quickly
>>>> this is coming up.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Katie
>>>>
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