[Street] [Winter] [Ideas] [Transparency] [Ob-media] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely

monica raymond femmevox at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 8 09:06:43 EST 2011





I read in the online paper last night that inside sources (whatever that means!?) said that Menino was planning a takedown on Friday.
So decamping in a beautiful way Sunday may simply be too late. 

If a beautiful, serious, respectful departure is called for, it might have to happen as early as tomorrow (Friday).
Or perhaps, if we could reach consensus on this at tonight's GA, a clear announcement that we are planning to leave on Sunday might stave off police--expensive and potentially embarrassing for the mayor, so most likely something he would prefer to avoid if possible.

This would be face-saving for all sides, IF everyone were to really leave.

Some people, though, have no place else to go.

Monica
femmevox at hotmail.com








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Subject: Re: [Winter] [Ideas] [Transparency] [Ob-media] Temporary	Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely



Dewey Square should decamp gracefully and figure out how to mount another form of nonviolent civil disruption or disobedience over the winter.  The original point of the occupation tactic was to provide an open political forum for ordinary citizens and to disrupt business as usual for those in power.  It has accomplished that, and the deathly cold of real winter is coming.  It's time to figure out another way rather than fetishize the camping trip.
On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky wrote:I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a beautiful way with a serious but hopeful feeling.   If we can decide on this, and announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with dignity, and then plan the next actions.   The alternative is a unified, fierce nonviolent resistance with many arrests.  Anything in between will be a washout and a messaging mess.  They both have their pros and cons.  Please give opinions.

Sage



On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:

+1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as to Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband the outdoor camp for the winter season - there are some very effective ideas,plans, and history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are worth review.  Yeah.  I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of Detroit - but you cannot take Detroit out of the woman.  Deb Sirotkin Butler



On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net> wrote:


We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not just for 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting at E5 Sunday starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first agenda item. And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or disband? And then decide where to go if evicted. 



This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host the entire camp. This is part PR, part mission central, and part functional necessity. Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the Boston Public Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is to make a point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester were we'd like to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We can make an eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.



On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:



I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and have a connection that I have not pulled yet.  I think that we should do it in a synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston.   I have been thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time now.  I think we should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.




To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be the right message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt us. We may decide that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many other things in regard to negotiation and diplomacy.





Sage



On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <greggatghc at gmail.com> wrote:




I just got off the phone with the person who has been my go-between for me and Menino, its a close friend of his.  Before I called him, Menino already had.  Menino is still of the mindset that we should come to some sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and maybe still have use of it or something similar to that.  I told our mutual friend to call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week.  I also told him that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a meeting before any sort of action on his part would be a good idea.





That is where we stand with the Mayor right now.  He gave our mutual friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even soon.
I will write back when I hear back.







On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:





WELL DONE.  This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM meeting for media.  I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of things in the office.  Deb Sirotkin Butler 






On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:

Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have emailed facilitation about it. 






Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey. Headed to camp, will be there around 5-515.


Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm emergency GA. Going to say something like.
"BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing protecting us from being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm dewey sq. Please come if you can!"










On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus <rachelbp at gmail.com> wrote:








Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine press will be arriving soon.

+1 on the vigil--other thoughts?

rbp

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:










Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let them know? That's what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.
Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear people were talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of the 1st amendment if we lost. 












I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks. We need all hands on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you can be at camp, please be there tonight.
Eli













On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric <occupyeric at gmail.com> wrote:












Hi,I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and the Judge ruling the case has ruled against our case and has lifted the Temporary Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate this info widely. I haven't seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of it. 













Please pass the word on.
Solidarity,Eric

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