[Street] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely, brainstorm solutions

Deborah Sirotkin Butler amberpaw at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 10:36:50 EST 2011


+1

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:

> i would add Dewey Square, if we can negotiate with the City to have single
> large tent for continuous peaceable assembly.
> ... or the Boston Common, with a similar concession from the City
> government.
>
> I guess it depends on what we call "camp".
>
> -Sage
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net> wrote:
>
>> Brainstorm long and short term locations for the camp:
>> Federal Reserve Conference Room
>> City Hall Plaza
>> Old South Meeting House
>> Boston Public Library
>> Boston Garden, or whatever it's called now
>> John Hancock Observatory
>> Old Parish Dorchester
>> Unitarian Universalists, Boylston St.
>> St. Patricks/Pauls, south end, Catholic Church largest land owner in the
>> world
>> City Hall
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during the
>>> wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and steal
>>> our cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will give us time
>>> to regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip code in the area
>>> (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize this effort
>>> and plan rideshares, have movie nights, potlucks).  This will also allow us
>>> to reach out to our communities and gauge their needs, and rally more
>>> support despite temporarily surrendering our major presence in the
>>> financial district.
>>>
>>> Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference space
>>> for free for nonprofits.  Would be fun to plan a conference around how we
>>> will regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that brought
>>> us to Dewey in the first place.
>>> On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events" <
>>> booking99percent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided.  I have a band
>>>> that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as usually as we are
>>>> packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.
>>>> Kelley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos <
>>>> occupyprospecthill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has served
>>>>> it's purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and show that there is
>>>>> a significant number of people that are concerned and effected by our
>>>>> current socio-economic system. Sure, one could make the argument that the
>>>>> camp is an important representation of the first amendment - and it is -
>>>>> but this movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp
>>>>> peacefully could send a strong message that we are reasonable and
>>>>> respectful, andthat we recognize that this phase of the movement is over,
>>>>> which it is. We can do it peacefully or we can be forced to leave, but in
>>>>> either scenario, it's over. Let's rally and get ready for what's next!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
>>>>> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a beautiful
>>>>>> way with a serious but hopeful feeling.   If we can decide on this, and
>>>>>> announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with dignity, and
>>>>>> then plan the next actions.   The alternative is a unified, fierce
>>>>>> nonviolent resistance with many arrests.  Anything in between will be a
>>>>>> washout and a messaging mess.  They both have their pros and cons.  Please
>>>>>> give opinions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
>>>>>> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as to
>>>>>>> Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband the
>>>>>>> outdoor camp for the winter season - there are some very effective
>>>>>>> ideas,plans, and history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are
>>>>>>> worth review.  Yeah.  I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of
>>>>>>> Detroit - but you cannot take Detroit out of the woman.  Deb Sirotkin
>>>>>>> Butler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not just
>>>>>>>> for 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting at E5
>>>>>>>> Sunday starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first agenda
>>>>>>>> item. And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or
>>>>>>>> disband? And then decide where to go if evicted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big
>>>>>>>> indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host the entire
>>>>>>>> camp. This is part PR, part mission central, and part functional necessity.
>>>>>>>> Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the Boston Public
>>>>>>>> Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is to make a
>>>>>>>> point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester were we'd
>>>>>>>> like to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We can make
>>>>>>>> an eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
>>>>>>>> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and
>>>>>>>>> have a connection that I have not pulled yet.  I think that we should do it
>>>>>>>>> in a synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston.   I have been
>>>>>>>>> thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time now.  I think
>>>>>>>>> we should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be the
>>>>>>>>> right message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt us. We may
>>>>>>>>> decide that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many other things
>>>>>>>>> in regard to negotiation and diplomacy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <greggatghc at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I just got off the phone with the person who has been my
>>>>>>>>>> go-between for me and Menino, its a close friend of his.  Before I called
>>>>>>>>>> him, Menino already had.  Menino is still of the mindset that we should
>>>>>>>>>> come to some sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and
>>>>>>>>>> maybe still have use of it or something similar to that.  I told our mutual
>>>>>>>>>> friend to call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week.  I also
>>>>>>>>>> told him that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a meeting
>>>>>>>>>> before any sort of action on his part would be a good idea.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is where we stand with the Mayor right now.  He gave our
>>>>>>>>>> mutual friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even soon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will write back when I hear back.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
>>>>>>>>>> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  WELL DONE.  This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting for media.  I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of things
>>>>>>>>>>> in the office.  Deb Sirotkin Butler
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <
>>>>>>>>>>> efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have
>>>>>>>>>>>> emailed facilitation about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Headed to camp, will be there around 5-515.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm emergency
>>>>>>>>>>>> GA. Going to say something like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>> protecting us from being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm
>>>>>>>>>>>> dewey sq. Please come if you can!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus <
>>>>>>>>>>>> rachelbp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine
>>>>>>>>>>>>> press will be arriving soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the vigil--other thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Berliner Plattus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rachelbp at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (203)-676-2280
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know? That's what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of the 1st amendment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if we lost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need all hands on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you can be at camp,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please be there tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyeric at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judge ruling the case has ruled against our case and has lifted the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Temporary Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate this info widely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please pass the word on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solidarity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> or where you go to see people you like; it's where your boundaries are
>>>>>>>> tested. It's where you get work done." Barbara Smith, African American
>>>>>>>> feminist
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