[Street] [Ideas] [Obit] [Transparency] [Ob-media] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely

Beauregard Lyle yayinternets at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 10:43:58 EST 2011


>
> simply work with us as human beings to make sure the space is safe and
> sound for use of the public


Quite frankly, if the city is willing to endanger us in order to build a
case against us, I don't know what amount of reason we can expect from the
city any longer.  Also I feel strongly the city reacted disproportionately
during the Columbus day raid and on other occasions in order to engineer
news that we are costing them too much money.

While we should be optimistic with the negotiations, there should be some
awareness and acknowledgement that the city acts not on good faith but on
interests that can be interpreted to represent that which our very movement
antagonizes.  Perhaps during negotiations we should ask for conditions for
us to leave on our own volition, including immediate accountability of the
city's expenses and so we can spend wintertime investigating the city's
wasteful costs, including stealing sinks.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Michael Becker <
michael_becker at meei.harvard.edu> wrote:

> opening the tent to the public at large is key both for making Occupy
> less likely to be miscast as a hostile place for "outsiders", but also
> bring in reams of fresh new ideas
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Sage Radachowsky
> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Negotiation is still an option.  We may still be able to meet with the
> City
> > and negotiate something that is more than a complete retreat.   We have a
> > lot to talk about at General Assembly tonight.
> >
> > One idea is to negotiate having a single large tent through the Winter,
> not
> > for sleeping, but for a continuous peaceable assembly.  We have had our
> eye
> > on a 52'x18' tent that is large enough to hold a general assembly. I am
> sure
> > we are able to muster enough Winter soldiers to keep at least three
> people
> > in the tent at all times. The tent would of course be open to the public
> at
> > large, so we would not be occupying the space in the sense of seizing it
> for
> > our own use, but we would be occupying the sense of holding it for public
> > dialogue on the important issues of our economy and democracy and social
> > justice.
> >
> > If the City is at all reasonable, then it would concede to this single
> > request, and put aside the technicalities of permitting, and simply work
> > with us as human beings to make sure the space is safe and sound for use
> of
> > the public.  After all, come on, there is a huge tent on Government
> Center
> > Plaza for Peter Pan!  If Peter Pan is worth a tent on public space, then
> > aren't our goals worthy?
> >
> > If the City says no to this simple request, they will not look so good.
> >  If they say yes, then we still get to have a physical presence until
> > Spring.
> >
> > Sage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during the
> >> wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and
> steal our
> >> cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will give us time
> to
> >> regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip code in the area
> >> (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize this
> effort
> >> and plan rideshares, have movie nights, potlucks).  This will also
> allow us
> >> to reach out to our communities and gauge their needs, and rally more
> >> support despite temporarily surrendering our major presence in the
> financial
> >> district.
> >>
> >> Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference space
> for
> >> free for nonprofits.  Would be fun to plan a conference around how we
> will
> >> regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that brought
> us to
> >> Dewey in the first place.
> >>
> >> On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events"
> >> <booking99percent at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided.  I have a band
> >>> that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as usually as we
> are
> >>> packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.
> >>> Kelley
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos <
> occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has served
> >>>> it's purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and show that
> there is
> >>>> a significant number of people that are concerned and effected by our
> >>>> current socio-economic system. Sure, one could make the argument that
> the
> >>>> camp is an important representation of the first amendment - and it
> is - but
> >>>> this movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp
> peacefully
> >>>> could send a strong message that we are reasonable and respectful,
> andthat
> >>>> we recognize that this phase of the movement is over, which it is. We
> can do
> >>>> it peacefully or we can be forced to leave, but in either scenario,
> it's
> >>>> over. Let's rally and get ready for what's next!
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky
> >>>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a beautiful
> >>>>> way with a serious but hopeful feeling.   If we can decide on this,
> and
> >>>>> announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with
> dignity, and
> >>>>> then plan the next actions.   The alternative is a unified, fierce
> >>>>> nonviolent resistance with many arrests.  Anything in between will
> be a
> >>>>> washout and a messaging mess.  They both have their pros and cons.
>  Please
> >>>>> give opinions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sage
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
> >>>>> <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as to
> >>>>>> Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband
> the outdoor
> >>>>>> camp for the winter season - there are some very effective
> ideas,plans, and
> >>>>>> history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are worth
> review.  Yeah.
> >>>>>> I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of Detroit - but
> you
> >>>>>> cannot take Detroit out of the woman.  Deb Sirotkin Butler
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not just
> for
> >>>>>>> 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting at
> E5 Sunday
> >>>>>>> starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first
> agenda item.
> >>>>>>> And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or
> disband? And
> >>>>>>> then decide where to go if evicted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big
> >>>>>>> indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host the
> entire
> >>>>>>> camp. This is part PR, part mission central, and part functional
> necessity.
> >>>>>>> Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the Boston
> Public
> >>>>>>> Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is
> to make a
> >>>>>>> point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester were
> we'd like
> >>>>>>> to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We can
> make an
> >>>>>>> eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky
> >>>>>>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and
> have
> >>>>>>>> a connection that I have not pulled yet.  I think that we should
> do it in a
> >>>>>>>> synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston.   I have
> been
> >>>>>>>> thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time now.
>  I think we
> >>>>>>>> should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be the
> >>>>>>>> right message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt us.
> We may
> >>>>>>>> decide that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many
> other things
> >>>>>>>> in regard to negotiation and diplomacy.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sage
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <greggatghc at gmail.com
> >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just got off the phone with the person who has been my
> go-between
> >>>>>>>>> for me and Menino, its a close friend of his.  Before I called
> him, Menino
> >>>>>>>>> already had.  Menino is still of the mindset that we should come
> to some
> >>>>>>>>> sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and
> maybe still
> >>>>>>>>> have use of it or something similar to that.  I told our mutual
> friend to
> >>>>>>>>> call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week.  I also
> told him
> >>>>>>>>> that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a meeting
> before any
> >>>>>>>>> sort of action on his part would be a good idea.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That is where we stand with the Mayor right now.  He gave our
> >>>>>>>>> mutual friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even soon.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I will write back when I hear back.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
> >>>>>>>>> <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> WELL DONE.  This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM meeting
> >>>>>>>>>> for media.  I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of
> things in the
> >>>>>>>>>> office.  Deb Sirotkin Butler
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <
> efeghali at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have
> >>>>>>>>>>> emailed facilitation about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Headed to camp, will be there around 5-515.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm emergency
> GA.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Going to say something like.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing
> protecting
> >>>>>>>>>>> us from being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm
> dewey sq.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please come if you can!"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus
> >>>>>>>>>>> <rachelbp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine
> >>>>>>>>>>>> press will be arriving soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the vigil--other thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbp
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Berliner Plattus
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rachelbp at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (203)-676-2280
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let them
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know? That's what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people were talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of
> the 1st amendment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if we lost.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks. We
> need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> all hands on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you can
> be at camp,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please be there tonight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eli
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <occupyeric at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judge ruling the case has ruled against our case and has
> lifted the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Temporary Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate
> this info widely. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please pass the word on.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solidarity,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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