<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div><br></div><div>I agree with Joe & Katie, a clear message would be great ...last night on site a facilitated discussion was going on at main stage, 45 people or so, I missed most of it but, they were condensing their view of OB and coming up with 4 words per small group .. was anyone there, anyone know who might have notes' it sounds like ideas to me, if it was one of the WGs<br></div>
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Subject: Re: [Occupybostonoutreach] THUR, 17th, <a href="http://MoveOn.org">MoveOn.org</a><br>
[Street]Canvassing for 11/17/11 March<br>
From: Katie Gradowski <<a href="http://katie.gradowski@gmail.com">katie.gradowski@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Sat, November 12, 2011 11:28 am<br>
To: Joseph Ramsey <<a href="mailto:jgramsey@gmail.com">jgramsey@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:Eden@akashic.com">Eden@akashic.com</a>, <a href="mailto:street@lists.occupyboston.org">street@lists.occupyboston.org</a>, outreach outreach<br>
<<a href="mailto:occupybostonoutreach@lists.mayfirst.org">occupybostonoutreach@lists.mayfirst.org</a>>, Stephen Campbell<br>
<<a href="mailto:scampbell103@gmail.com">scampbell103@gmail.com</a>>, Jorge <<a href="mailto:neuromancermagic@gmail.com">neuromancermagic@gmail.com</a>>, OccDA<br>
<<a href="mailto:occupybostonDA@gmail.com">occupybostonDA@gmail.com</a>><br>
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To add to this -- did anyone see the OWS statement on cooptation? It's succinct and very powerful. <br><br>I would love to see that adopted here verbatim, and would be happy to put it forth as a proposal to outreach with other working groups.<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Joseph Ramsey <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:jgramsey@gmail.com">jgramsey@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>I share Eden's mixed emotions about <a href="http://MoveOn.org">MoveOn.org</a> climbing on this 99% train.</div><div> </div><div>Cetainly it is a promising sign of the breadth and depth of support for the 99% movement. And certainly it is a great opportunity to build and network and attract more people from various walks of life to the occupy movement. All to the good.</div> <div> </div><div>But there are also dangers to be aware of, as Eden points to. There is a danger of cooptiation of message here, as large organizations with lots of money flow into this movement. </div><div> </div><div> While welcoming the participation of all people, we need to be prepared.</div><div> </div><div>One way of preparing, I think is to (finally) work through GA a clear OB Declaration of Occupation in the very near future. So long as we lack such a clear statement, our movment is extra vulnerable to being "spoken for" by groups like Moveon, which have their own message well-crafted to their (establishment liberal) purposes.<br> </div><div>Don't get me wrong, I think our movement is plenty strong; it's not like a MOveon is going to sweep us to the side. But still, as pro-Democratic party groups come into the mix, we need to give attention to maintaining our integrity and an independent political and social movement.</div> <div> </div><div>-Joe<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:48 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Eden@akashic.com" target="_blank">Eden@akashic.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> </div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);" class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5"> <div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"><div>While I do not support MoveOn whole heartedly, believeing they gently move progressives to the center, they attract a huge following. I pass this on to show there will be people out and open to joining NOV 17th, from a wider demographic than we have seen as of yet. Some people will come to us for leadership, eden</div> <div><br></div><div><a href="http://MoveOn.org" target="_blank">MoveOn.org</a> is supporting this, getting a lot of coverage from the middle 99%</div><div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Synopsis: In less than two weeks, the Super Committee will unveil their deficit reduction plan. And instead of focusing on creating jobs and making the rich pay their fair share, all indications are that <b>Congress will once again protect the 1% at the expense of the 99%—unleashing up to $1.2 trillion in vicious, job-killing cuts that could hit Medicare, Social Security, and other programs the middle class relies on.</b></span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">We've got just 12 days left to stop them—and our only chance is massive, coordinated action to let them know we will not stand for more of the same disastrous policies.</span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><b><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">So we're joining with Occupy Wall Street, and progressive allies like SEIU, AFL-CIO, and many more for a "We Are the 99%" day of action on November 17. </span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Together, we'll demand that Congress and the Super Committee tax Wall Street to create millions of jobs and rebuild our economy for the 99%. But if we're going to stop this terrible deal, these events need to be big—really big. Can you join us?</span></div> <div>...</div><div><br></div><div>If there’s no agreement by November 23, or if Congress doesn’t pass the panel’s recommendations by the end of the year, it will trigger an enforcement mechanism comprised largely of across the board cuts to Medicare providers and defense and security programs, totaling $1.2 trillion over 10 years. Those cuts would begin take effect on January 1, 2013.</div><div><br></div><div>WHOLE MOveOn PASTED:</div><div> </div><div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Dear MoveOn member,</span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">They just don't get it. Ordinary people are rising up and demanding that our country work for the 99%, but Congress is still acting like nothing has changed.</span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">In less than two weeks, the Super Committee will unveil their deficit reduction plan. And instead of focusing on creating jobs and making the rich pay their fair share, all indications are that <b>Congress will once again protect the 1% at the expense of the 99%—unleashing up to $1.2 trillion in vicious, job-killing cuts that could hit Medicare, Social Security, and other programs the middle class relies on.</b></span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">We've got just 12 days left to stop them—and our only chance is massive, coordinated action to let them know we will not stand for more of the same disastrous policies.</span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><b><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">So we're joining with Occupy Wall Street, and progressive allies like SEIU, AFL-CIO, and many more for a "We Are the 99%" day of action on November 17. </span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Together, we'll demand that Congress and the Super Committee tax Wall Street to create millions of jobs and rebuild our economy for the 99%. But if we're going to stop this terrible deal, these events need to be big—really big. Can you join us?</span></div><div> ...(move-on links)<br></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Democrats on the Super Committee have already offered $500 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, even though Republicans still refuse to raise taxes on the wealthy.<sup>1</sup> And any deal that the Super Committee reaches will be incredibly dangerous. Part of the debt ceiling deal this summer was that the Super Committee's report would get a straight up-or-down vote in both houses of Congress immediately—making it very hard to stop once the train has left the station.</span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Our plan for November 17 is to hold events at the very places where Congress could be creating jobs to get Americans back to work: crumbling bridges, understaffed schools, and other examples of critical infrastructure in disrepair. We need to remind Congress—and our fellow community members—that there's plenty of work that needs doing in America, if only Washington would focus on the right things. And we need to show Congress how huge the backlash will be if they push through yet another disastrous deal.</span></div> <div><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Thanks for all you do.–Lenore, Joan, Ryan, Wes, and the rest of the team</span></div> <div style="margin: 12pt 0in;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">Source:</span></div> <div style="font-size:12pt;;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">1. "Dems, GOP Play Super Committee Hot Potato As Talks Stall Over Taxes," Talking Points Memo, November 10, 2011 <br> <a href="http://www.moveon.org/r?r=267546&id=32795-5199750-C9NXU9x&t=6" target="_blank"><span>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=267546&id=32795-5199750-C9NXU9x&t=6</span></a></span></div><div style="font-size:12pt;;" class="MsoNormal"> <span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span>by following this then, by clicking: 'One of the most recent offers, the details of which were <a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/how-the-super-committee-reached-the-brink-of-failure.php" target="_blank">leaked to the press earlier this week</a>, came from Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA)' u get to: <span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span><a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/how-the-super-committee-reached-the-brink-of-failure.php" target="_blank">http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/how-the-super-committee-reached-the-brink-of-failure.php</a></span></span></span></span></div> <div style="font-size:12pt;;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span><br></span></span></div><div style="font-size:12pt;;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span>and clicking this: '</span></span>A key member of the Senate Democratic leadership team has <a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/schumer-predicts-super-committee-will-fail-video.php" target="_blank">openly predicted the panel will gridlock and fail</a>' gets u to: <span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span> <br> </span></span></div><div style="font-size:12pt;;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span>u get to this: <a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/schumer-predicts-super-committee-will-fail-video.php" target="_blank">http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/schumer-predicts-super-committee-will-fail-video.php</a>, <b>which is a Video</b> </span></span></div> <div style="font-size:12pt;;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span>My beginning paste: </span></span></div><div style="font-size:12pt;;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"><span><b>If there’s no agreement by November 23, or if Congress doesn’t pass the panel’s recommendations by the end of the year, it will trigger an enforcement mechanism comprised largely of across the board cuts to Medicare providers and defense and security programs, totaling $1.2 trillion over 10 years. Those cuts would begin take effect on January 1, 2013.</b><br> </span></span></div> <div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Free School University is located in Dewey Square at South Station.</div><div>Most classes meet at the bright orange, Soap Box, north end of the square.</div> <div> </div><div>To schedule a class send to <a href="mailto:FSU@lists.OccupyBoston.org" target="_blank">FSU@lists.OccupyBoston.org</a>, write 'POST' in the subject line.<br>To volunteer <a href="mailto:FSU@lists.OccupyBoston.org" target="_blank">FSU@lists.OccupyBoston.org</a> , write 'VOL' in the subject line.<br> The FSU public meeting is 4pm agenda and 4:30 meeting</div><div>List of FSU classes WIKI:</div><div><a href="http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/Solidarity/FSU" target="_blank">http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/Solidarity/FSU</a></div> <div>and whole Occupy Boston: <a href="http://www.occupyboston.org/calendar" target="_blank">http://www.occupyboston.org/calendar</a>/</div><div>Daily newspaper, list of classes and other notes regarding FSU can be found at:<br> OBGlobe: <a href="http://occupybostonglobe.com/free-school-u/" target="_blank">http://occupybostonglobe.com/free-school-u/</a> <br>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/OccupyBostonFSU" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/#!/OccupyBostonFSU</a> <br> Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/OccupyBostonFSU/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/OccupyBostonFSU/</a></div><div> </div><div><br><br></div> <blockquote style="color: black; padding-left: 8px; font-family: verdana; font-size: 10pt; margin-left: 8px; border-left: 2px solid blue;"> <div> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: [Street] Canvassing for 11/17/11 March<br> From: Ben Janos <<a href="mailto:occupyprospecthill@gmail.com" target="_blank">occupyprospecthill@gmail.com</a>><br> Date: Sat, November 12, 2011 12:08 am<br> To: <a href="mailto:street@lists.occupyboston.org" target="_blank">street@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br> <br> Hey guys,<div><br></div><div>As I'm sure you know, this Thursday, 11/17/11 is a day of action in the Occupy Universe. In Boston, we are going to be marching in conjunction with Mass Uniting in a "March for Good Jobs". There's gonna be a lot of Unions and other organizations involved and it should be huge.</div> <div><br></div><div>Tonight (ok, last night by now) we talked about going out and doing some flyering for this event. I'm going to be doing this on Monday and Wednesday at 5:30. It's gonna be a great way to get some practice before the Meet the 99% march, and also hopefully get more people involved in Occupy Boston! We'll meet (where else) at Gandhi and decide where we are going to flyer from there.</div> <div><br></div><div>The link to the march is here:</div><div><a href="http://massuniting.org/2011/11/04/march-for-good-jobs/" target="_blank">http://massuniting.org/2011/11/04/march-for-good-jobs/</a></div><div><br></div> <div>Thanks!</div><div>Ben</div> <hr>_______________________________________________<br> Street mailing list<br> <br> Post: <a href="mailto:Street@lists.occupyboston.org" target="_blank">Street@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br> List info: <a href="https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/street" target="_blank">https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/street</a><br> <br> To Unsubscribe<br> Send email to: <a href="mailto:Street-unsubscribe@lists.occupyboston.org" target="_blank">Street-unsubscribe@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br> Or visit: <a href="https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/options/street/eden%40akashic.com" target="_blank">https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/options/street/eden%40akashic.com</a><br> <br> You are subscribed as: <a href="mailto:eden@akashic.com" target="_blank">eden@akashic.com</a><br> </div> </blockquote></span></div> <br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br> Occupybostonoutreach mailing list<br> <br> Post: <a href="mailto:Occupybostonoutreach@lists.occupyboston.org" target="_blank">Occupybostonoutreach@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br> List info: <a href="https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/occupybostonoutreach" target="_blank">https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/occupybostonoutreach</a><br> <br> To Unsubscribe<br> Send email to: <a href="mailto:Occupybostonoutreach-unsubscribe@lists.occupyboston.org" target="_blank">Occupybostonoutreach-unsubscribe@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br> Or visit: <a href="https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/options/occupybostonoutreach/jgramsey%40gmail.com" target="_blank">https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/options/occupybostonoutreach/jgramsey%40gmail.com</a><br> <br> You are subscribed as: <a href="mailto:jgramsey@gmail.com" target="_blank">jgramsey@gmail.com</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br> <br>_______________________________________________<br> Occupybostonoutreach mailing list<br> <br> Post: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Occupybostonoutreach@lists.occupyboston.org">Occupybostonoutreach@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br> List info: <a href="https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/occupybostonoutreach" target="_blank">https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/listinfo/occupybostonoutreach</a><br> <br> To Unsubscribe<br> Send email to: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Occupybostonoutreach-unsubscribe@lists.occupyboston.org">Occupybostonoutreach-unsubscribe@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br> Or visit: <a href="https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/options/occupybostonoutreach/katie.gradowski%40gmail.com" target="_blank">https://lists.mayfirst.org/mailman/options/occupybostonoutreach/katie.gradowski%40gmail.com</a><br> <br> You are subscribed as: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:katie.gradowski@gmail.com">katie.gradowski@gmail.com</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Occupy Boston! 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