[Street] [Ideas] [Obit] [Transparency] [Ob-media] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely
Sage Radachowsky
sage.radachowsky at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 10:55:58 EST 2011
Well, Menino just gave us a midnight deadline.
However, I heard from the City.
If we agree to decamp by Sunday, I think that we will have until Sunday
with no raid.
We must be serious. We must help people who have no other place to go.
We can make a stand when the circumstance is clearer, and everyone is
voluntarily doing it.
The lunch counter at Woolworths was a place to take a stand. The front
seat of the bus was a place to take a stand. This may not be the place.
We may create the place in the future, in a more planned action.
Sage
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com>wrote:
> simply work with us as human beings to make sure the space is safe and
>> sound for use of the public
>
>
> Quite frankly, if the city is willing to endanger us in order to build a
> case against us, I don't know what amount of reason we can expect from the
> city any longer. Also I feel strongly the city reacted disproportionately
> during the Columbus day raid and on other occasions in order to engineer
> news that we are costing them too much money.
>
> While we should be optimistic with the negotiations, there should be some
> awareness and acknowledgement that the city acts not on good faith but on
> interests that can be interpreted to represent that which our very movement
> antagonizes. Perhaps during negotiations we should ask for conditions for
> us to leave on our own volition, including immediate accountability of the
> city's expenses and so we can spend wintertime investigating the city's
> wasteful costs, including stealing sinks.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Michael Becker <
> michael_becker at meei.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> opening the tent to the public at large is key both for making Occupy
>> less likely to be miscast as a hostile place for "outsiders", but also
>> bring in reams of fresh new ideas
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Negotiation is still an option. We may still be able to meet with the
>> City
>> > and negotiate something that is more than a complete retreat. We have
>> a
>> > lot to talk about at General Assembly tonight.
>> >
>> > One idea is to negotiate having a single large tent through the Winter,
>> not
>> > for sleeping, but for a continuous peaceable assembly. We have had our
>> eye
>> > on a 52'x18' tent that is large enough to hold a general assembly. I am
>> sure
>> > we are able to muster enough Winter soldiers to keep at least three
>> people
>> > in the tent at all times. The tent would of course be open to the
>> public at
>> > large, so we would not be occupying the space in the sense of seizing
>> it for
>> > our own use, but we would be occupying the sense of holding it for
>> public
>> > dialogue on the important issues of our economy and democracy and social
>> > justice.
>> >
>> > If the City is at all reasonable, then it would concede to this single
>> > request, and put aside the technicalities of permitting, and simply work
>> > with us as human beings to make sure the space is safe and sound for
>> use of
>> > the public. After all, come on, there is a huge tent on Government
>> Center
>> > Plaza for Peter Pan! If Peter Pan is worth a tent on public space, then
>> > aren't our goals worthy?
>> >
>> > If the City says no to this simple request, they will not look so good.
>> > If they say yes, then we still get to have a physical presence until
>> > Spring.
>> >
>> > Sage
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during the
>> >> wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and
>> steal our
>> >> cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will give us time
>> to
>> >> regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip code in the area
>> >> (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize this
>> effort
>> >> and plan rideshares, have movie nights, potlucks). This will also
>> allow us
>> >> to reach out to our communities and gauge their needs, and rally more
>> >> support despite temporarily surrendering our major presence in the
>> financial
>> >> district.
>> >>
>> >> Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference space
>> for
>> >> free for nonprofits. Would be fun to plan a conference around how we
>> will
>> >> regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that brought
>> us to
>> >> Dewey in the first place.
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events"
>> >> <booking99percent at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided. I have a band
>> >>> that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as usually as we
>> are
>> >>> packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.
>> >>> Kelley
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos <
>> occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has served
>> >>>> it's purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and show that
>> there is
>> >>>> a significant number of people that are concerned and effected by our
>> >>>> current socio-economic system. Sure, one could make the argument
>> that the
>> >>>> camp is an important representation of the first amendment - and it
>> is - but
>> >>>> this movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp
>> peacefully
>> >>>> could send a strong message that we are reasonable and respectful,
>> andthat
>> >>>> we recognize that this phase of the movement is over, which it is.
>> We can do
>> >>>> it peacefully or we can be forced to leave, but in either scenario,
>> it's
>> >>>> over. Let's rally and get ready for what's next!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ben
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>> >>>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a
>> beautiful
>> >>>>> way with a serious but hopeful feeling. If we can decide on this,
>> and
>> >>>>> announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with
>> dignity, and
>> >>>>> then plan the next actions. The alternative is a unified, fierce
>> >>>>> nonviolent resistance with many arrests. Anything in between will
>> be a
>> >>>>> washout and a messaging mess. They both have their pros and cons.
>> Please
>> >>>>> give opinions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sage
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
>> >>>>> <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> +1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as to
>> >>>>>> Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband
>> the outdoor
>> >>>>>> camp for the winter season - there are some very effective
>> ideas,plans, and
>> >>>>>> history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are worth
>> review. Yeah.
>> >>>>>> I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of Detroit -
>> but you
>> >>>>>> cannot take Detroit out of the woman. Deb Sirotkin Butler
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net
>> >
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not just
>> for
>> >>>>>>> 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting at
>> E5 Sunday
>> >>>>>>> starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first
>> agenda item.
>> >>>>>>> And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or
>> disband? And
>> >>>>>>> then decide where to go if evicted.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big
>> >>>>>>> indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host
>> the entire
>> >>>>>>> camp. This is part PR, part mission central, and part functional
>> necessity.
>> >>>>>>> Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the Boston
>> Public
>> >>>>>>> Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is
>> to make a
>> >>>>>>> point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester
>> were we'd like
>> >>>>>>> to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We can
>> make an
>> >>>>>>> eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>> >>>>>>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and
>> have
>> >>>>>>>> a connection that I have not pulled yet. I think that we should
>> do it in a
>> >>>>>>>> synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston. I
>> have been
>> >>>>>>>> thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time now.
>> I think we
>> >>>>>>>> should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be the
>> >>>>>>>> right message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt
>> us. We may
>> >>>>>>>> decide that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many
>> other things
>> >>>>>>>> in regard to negotiation and diplomacy.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sage
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <
>> greggatghc at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I just got off the phone with the person who has been my
>> go-between
>> >>>>>>>>> for me and Menino, its a close friend of his. Before I called
>> him, Menino
>> >>>>>>>>> already had. Menino is still of the mindset that we should
>> come to some
>> >>>>>>>>> sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and
>> maybe still
>> >>>>>>>>> have use of it or something similar to that. I told our mutual
>> friend to
>> >>>>>>>>> call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week. I also
>> told him
>> >>>>>>>>> that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a meeting
>> before any
>> >>>>>>>>> sort of action on his part would be a good idea.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> That is where we stand with the Mayor right now. He gave our
>> >>>>>>>>> mutual friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even
>> soon.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I will write back when I hear back.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
>> >>>>>>>>> <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> WELL DONE. This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM
>> meeting
>> >>>>>>>>>> for media. I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of
>> things in the
>> >>>>>>>>>> office. Deb Sirotkin Butler
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <
>> efeghali at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have
>> >>>>>>>>>>> emailed facilitation about it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Headed to camp, will be there around 5-515.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm emergency
>> GA.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Going to say something like.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing
>> protecting
>> >>>>>>>>>>> us from being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm
>> dewey sq.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please come if you can!"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <rachelbp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> press will be arriving soon.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the vigil--other thoughts?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbp
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Berliner Plattus
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rachelbp at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (203)-676-2280
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let them
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know? That's what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people were talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of
>> the 1st amendment
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if we lost.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks. We
>> need
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> all hands on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you can
>> be at camp,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please be there tonight.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eli
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <occupyeric at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judge ruling the case has ruled against our case and has
>> lifted the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Temporary Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate
>> this info widely. I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please pass the word on.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solidarity,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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