[Street] Summary of call re: pushing the event back
Theresa
theresa at occupyboston.org
Sat Nov 26 11:51:58 EST 2011
If someone sends me a link to the list of places you want called, I
will start calling Monday. Also, I will try to be there next Saturday
Quoting Brett West <heavyriser at gmail.com>:
> Ravi, thank you for this insightful email and getting this conversation
> started on the list serve.
>
> Certainly, the possibility of changing the date this late in the game is a
> bit awkward for all the folks working so hard to organizer this. There are
> so many good reasons to delay the event and not to delay the event.
> Overall, I am looking at this as a huge lesson in event organizing.
>
> I think its fair to say, perhaps echoing Katie, that we have been a week or
> two behind in organizing this event all along. I feel like 3 weeks in we
> started the talking, 2 weeks in we started planning and 1 week in were
> hitting the ground. Oops.
>
> Nonetheless, some people have already done really great work in reaching
> out to their communities/networks. Importantly,* I don't see any student
> actions listed on the google docs*. I do see Occupemos. Where are the
> Occupy Boston events? Are they being planned
>
> *The best thing we can do between now and Monday if we want to have this
> event on Dec. 3rd get GROUPS/ ORGANIZERS to the Monday planning meeting. *If
> we don't have a good turn-out, I suspect we will postpone the event until
> Dec. 10. If we do have a good turnout, the community may decide to keep the
> date and churn out some serious action items.
>
> Thank you all
> Brett
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Ravi Mishra <ravi at occupyboston.org> wrote:
>
>> We had about 6-8 people on the call. We pretty quickly decided that the
>> two dates were going to be the 3rd or one week later, the 10th. There were
>> a lot of reasons to keep the march on the 3rd that David, Michael, and
>> Simon went into. From what I remember, Katie voiced her concerns and seemed
>> undecided. Brett seemed convinced to keep it on the 3rd.
>>
>> I thought it would be useful to keep the conversation going, especially as
>> I'm pretty in favor of pushing it back and giving us an extra week. I
>> wanted to go into my reasoning below, and start a thread so we could
>> discuss. We made no conclusion other than to bring it up on Monday at the
>> meeting, first thing. Without further ado, why I think we should push it
>> back:
>>
>> 1) The "open source" piece of demonstrations is just doesn't have enough
>> momentum behind it. To me, the promise of this event is that we empower
>> individuals to use their creativity to come up with novel types of actions
>> - hopefully ones that, long term, serve as a blueprint for more effective
>> demonstrations in the future. Right now, we have very few actions listed (
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah3pFB7dtoJJdERLcDU3WG1WMHpaSDZkeE03X1d4SHc&hl=en_US#gid=0)
>> - people knew to the concept of the event are hearing about it and then
>> seeing us not have any cool, crowdsourced events planned. Further, we've
>> made none of the materials we talked about - the flyers about the various
>> issues, personal stories, etc.
>>
>> 2) The rally. As far as I know, we have nothing planned, nor have we
>> reached out to the police or done much prep work.
>>
>> 3) Community orgs - outside of a handful, we haven't really reached out to
>> many. Judging by the reaction of the ones we have reached out to, having
>> more time to do more outreach could be huge.
>>
>> 4) The amount we gain is much more than the amount we lose. Ultimately, I
>> don't think pushing it back really has much downside - people are listening
>> to us, and we can easily get the message out (and spin it as a positive for
>> us: we have a lot of interest and we want to give both the various
>> communities and ourselves more time to prepare a great event - Simon's
>> great idea for how we could frame it). And more time gives us some
>> breathing room to make sure we pull off a great event.
>>
>> *Ultimately, the beauty of this event, in my mind, is that first that we
>> would take over the city with a variety of demonstrations, and second, that
>> we would create a culture of innovation when it comes to actions, and get
>> people thinking about how to make them more effective, informative, and fun.
>> * Right now, with the event 8 days away, I feel like an extra week would
>> be a great idea.
>>
>> Finally, I think I speak for everyone on the call when I say that,
>> whatever the final decision, we'll be diving in 100% to make this a great
>> event.
>>
>> --
>> Ravi
>>
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