[Street] Summary of call re: pushing the event back

Occupy Eric occupyeric at gmail.com
Sat Nov 26 17:34:30 EST 2011


Point of Info: Students will likely have a hard time with a Dec 10 march.

Also, since this has been billed as a crowd-source event, us making the
decision to postpone the march isn't really in the spirit of this march, in
my opinion.

Solidarity!
Eric

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Brett West <heavyriser at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Joe,
>
> Yes, word is out about this event for sure. Some who have been organizing
> it feel that it may not be to late to postpone it and make it better by
> doing so. You should bring these concerns to the meeting on Monday.
>
> The more community support shows up on Monday the better the chances of
> holding to the Dec. 3 date
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Joseph Ramsey <jgramsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The call for this action has already been issued, has it not?  I
>> personally forwarded it to several lists today!
>>
>> To postpone now is to sew confusion, isn't it?
>>
>> Also, with the possibility of an immanent assault on Dewey Square very
>> real post Dec. 1, isn't it important to do this sort of aggressive outreach
>> and rallying of the community (in support of occupy generally, and in
>> defense of dewey in particular) sooner rather than later?
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:33 PM, David Lamoso <davidlamoso16 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Joseph
>>> The event there talking about is the Unity Day of Action ditributed
>>> march on Dec 3. We are meeting on Monday at 5:00pm in 26 West st, Boston.
>>> For details of it.
>>> En Sokidaridad
>>> DavidLamoso
>>> Davidlamoso16 at gmail.com
>>> Sent from my MetroPCS Wireless Phone
>>>
>>>
>>> Joseph Ramsey <jgramsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Which "event" is being spoken of here?
>>> >
>>> >as a general point of process: It would be helpful if people made their
>>> >referrents (whether to people, places, or events) clear in all emails.
>>>  Or
>>> >at least in all *new* topic emails.
>>> >
>>> >  So many people are constantly coming into our conversations in the
>>> middle
>>> >that confusion is inevitable, especially if the "theys" "him"s "her"s
>>> and
>>> >"this"s arent't explicit throughout.
>>> >
>>> >Best,
>>> >Joe
>>> >
>>> >On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Ravi Mishra <ravi at occupyboston.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> We had about 6-8 people on the call. We pretty quickly decided that
>>> the
>>> >> two dates were going to be the 3rd or one week later, the 10th. There
>>> were
>>> >> a lot of reasons to keep the march on the 3rd that David, Michael, and
>>> >> Simon went into. From what I remember, Katie voiced her concerns and
>>> seemed
>>> >> undecided. Brett seemed convinced to keep it on the 3rd.
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought it would be useful to keep the conversation going,
>>> especially as
>>> >> I'm pretty in favor of pushing it back and giving us an extra week. I
>>> >> wanted to go into my reasoning below, and start a thread so we could
>>> >> discuss. We made no conclusion other than to bring it up on Monday at
>>> the
>>> >> meeting, first thing. Without further ado, why I think we should push
>>> it
>>> >> back:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1) The "open source" piece of demonstrations is just doesn't have
>>> enough
>>> >> momentum behind it. To me, the promise of this event is that we
>>> empower
>>> >> individuals to use their creativity to come up with novel types of
>>> actions
>>> >> - hopefully ones that, long term, serve as a blueprint for more
>>> effective
>>> >> demonstrations in the future. Right now, we have very few actions
>>> listed (
>>> >>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah3pFB7dtoJJdERLcDU3WG1WMHpaSDZkeE03X1d4SHc&hl=en_US#gid=0
>>> )
>>> >> - people knew to the concept of the event are hearing about it and
>>> then
>>> >> seeing us not have any cool, crowdsourced events planned. Further,
>>> we've
>>> >> made none of the materials we talked about - the flyers about the
>>> various
>>> >> issues, personal stories, etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2) The rally. As far as I know, we have nothing planned, nor have we
>>> >> reached out to the police or done much prep work.
>>> >>
>>> >> 3) Community orgs - outside of a handful, we haven't really reached
>>> out to
>>> >> many. Judging by the reaction of the ones we have reached out to,
>>> having
>>> >> more time to do more outreach could be huge.
>>> >>
>>> >> 4) The amount we gain is much more than the amount we lose.
>>> Ultimately, I
>>> >> don't think pushing it back really has much downside - people are
>>> listening
>>> >> to us, and we can easily get the message out (and spin it as a
>>> positive for
>>> >> us: we have a lot of interest and we want to give both the various
>>> >> communities and ourselves more time to prepare a great event - Simon's
>>> >> great idea for how we could frame it). And more time gives us some
>>> >> breathing room to make sure we pull off a great event.
>>> >>
>>> >> *Ultimately, the beauty of this event, in my mind, is that first that
>>> we
>>>
>>> >> would take over the city with a variety of demonstrations, and
>>> second, that
>>> >> we would create a culture of innovation when it comes to actions, and
>>> get
>>> >> people thinking about how to make them more effective, informative,
>>> and fun.
>>> >> * Right now, with the event 8 days away, I feel like an extra week
>>> would
>>> >> be a great idea.
>>> >>
>>> >> Finally, I think I speak for everyone on the call when I say that,
>>> >> whatever the final decision, we'll be diving in 100% to make this a
>>> great
>>> >> event.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Ravi
>>> >>
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