[Street] [Winter] [Ob-media] Boston.com reports Menino just gave Occupy a midnight deadline to leave

monica raymond femmevox at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 8 11:06:31 EST 2011


Could we leave Sunday
and open the camp to the world
Friday and Saturday?

Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:00:31 -0500
From: m2 at occupyboston.org
To: bwish at toddweld.com
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Subject: Re: [Winter] [Ob-media] Boston.com reports Menino just gave Occupy a midnight deadline to leave



  


    
  
  
    I'm support of self removal. to pull this off like we did with the
    tent on Monday. follow through with our plans. 

    

    

    On 12/8/11 10:41 AM, Wish, Benjamin wrote:
    
      
      
       

      

      
        No story yet.  I’ll forward once it’s up.
         
        From:
            legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org
            [mailto:legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org]
            On Behalf Of Deborah Sirotkin Butler

            Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:37 AM

            To: Sage Radachowsky

            Cc: ideas at lists.occupyboston.org; ob-logistics; Aria
            Littlhous; Occupy Boston Music and Events; Elias Feghali;
            street; Ravi Mishra; transparency at lists.mayfirst.org; Occupy
            Boston Winterization Working Group; obit;
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            legal at lists.occupyboston.org; OB Finance; Beauregard Lyle

            Subject: Re: [oblegal] Temporary Restraining Order
            Lifted. Please disseminate widely, brainstorm solutions
         
        +1
        
          On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Sage
            Radachowsky <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>
            wrote:
          i would add Dewey Square, if we can
            negotiate with the City to have single large tent for
            continuous peaceable assembly.
          
            ... or the Boston Common, with a
              similar concession from the City government.
          
          
             
          
          
            I guess it depends on what we call
              "camp".
          
          
             
          
          
            -Sage
          
          
            
              
                 
              
              
                
                   
                
                
                   
                  
                    On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:58 AM,
                      Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net>
                      wrote:
                    Brainstorm long and short term
                      locations for the camp:
                    
                      Federal Reserve Conference
                        Room
                    
                    
                      City Hall Plaza
                    
                    
                      Old South Meeting House
                    
                    
                      Boston Public Library
                    
                    
                      Boston Garden, or whatever
                        it's called now
                    
                    
                      John Hancock Observatory
                    
                    
                      Old Parish Dorchester
                    
                    
                      Unitarian Universalists,
                        Boylston St.
                    
                    
                      St. Patricks/Pauls, south
                        end, Catholic Church largest land owner in the
                        world
                    
                    
                      City Hall
                    
                    
                       
                    
                    
                       
                    
                    
                       
                      
                        On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53
                          AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com>
                          wrote:
                        I think saying we are decentralizing the
                          downtown encampment during the wintertime in
                          light of the city's clear efforts to demonize
                          us and steal our cleaning supplies in order to
                          build a case againt us will give us time to
                          regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy
                          every zip code in the area (weekly meetings in
                          volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize
                          this effort and plan rideshares, have movie
                          nights, potlucks).  This will also allow us to
                          reach out to our communities and gauge their
                          needs, and rally more support despite
                          temporarily surrendering our major presence in
                          the financial district.
                        Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building
                          offers conference space for free for
                          nonprofits.  Would be fun to plan a conference
                          around how we will regroup ourselves in the
                          spring in the very same building that brought
                          us to Dewey in the first place.
                        
                          
                            
                              On Dec 8, 2011 9:07
                                AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events"
                                <booking99percent at gmail.com>
                                wrote:
                            
                          
                          
                            
                              
                                 + 1. I agree ,Lets
                                  all Stand Together and not divided.  I
                                  have a band that wants to play on
                                  Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as
                                  usually as we are packing up. Ben..
                                  thank you too for all you did.
                                
                                  Kelley
                                  
                                     
                                    
                                      On Thu, Dec
                                        8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos
                                        <occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>
                                        wrote:
                                      
                                        Hi all,
                                      
                                      
                                         
                                      
                                      
                                        I agree
                                          with Sage that we should
                                          decamp together. The camp has
                                          served it's purpose, which was
                                          to bring light to inequality
                                          and show that there is a
                                          significant number of people
                                          that are concerned and
                                          effected by our current
                                          socio-economic system. Sure,
                                          one could make the argument
                                          that the camp is an important
                                          representation of the first
                                          amendment - and it is - but
                                          this movement is not about the
                                          first amendment. Disbanding
                                          camp peacefully could send a
                                          strong message that we are
                                          reasonable and respectful,
                                          andthat we recognize that this
                                          phase of the movement is over,
                                          which it is. We can do it
                                          peacefully or we can be forced
                                          to leave, but in either
                                          scenario, it's over. Let's
                                          rally and get ready for what's
                                          next!
                                      
                                      
                                         
                                      
                                      
                                        Ben
                                      
                                      
                                        
                                          
                                            On Thu,
                                              Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM,
                                              Sage Radachowsky <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>
                                              wrote:
                                          
                                        
                                        
                                          
                                            
                                              I
                                                would like us to swiftly
                                                decide to decamp on
                                                Sunday, in a beautiful
                                                way with a serious but
                                                hopeful feeling.   If we
                                                can decide on this, and
                                                announce it, then we
                                                will have the time to do
                                                this right, with
                                                dignity, and then plan
                                                the next actions.   The
                                                alternative is a
                                                unified, fierce
                                                nonviolent resistance
                                                with many arrests.
                                                 Anything in between
                                                will be a washout and a
                                                messaging mess.  They
                                                both have their pros and
                                                cons.  Please give
                                                opinions.
                                                  
                                              
                                                 
                                              
                                              
                                                Sage
                                              
                                              
                                                
                                                  
                                                     
                                                  
                                                  
                                                     
                                                  
                                                  
                                                     
                                                    
                                                       
                                                      
                                                        On
                                                          Thu, Dec 8,
                                                          2011 at 8:28
                                                          AM, Deborah
                                                          Sirotkin
                                                          Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                        +1
                                                          - to be
                                                          effective,
                                                          this movement
                                                          must evolve,
                                                          and at least
                                                          as to Occupy
                                                          Detroit, what
                                                          they did is
                                                          secure indoor
                                                          space and
                                                          disband the
                                                          outdoor camp
                                                          for the winter
                                                          season - there
                                                          are some very
                                                          effective
                                                          ideas,plans,
                                                          and history on
                                                          the Occupy
                                                          Detroit
                                                          website that I
                                                          think are
                                                          worth review. 
                                                          Yeah.  I was
                                                          born in
                                                          Detroit - you
                                                          can take the
                                                          woman out of
                                                          Detroit - but
                                                          you cannot
                                                          take Detroit
                                                          out of the
                                                          woman.  Deb
                                                          Sirotkin
                                                          Butler
                                                          
                                                        
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Thu, Dec 8,
                                                          2011 at 7:13
                                                          AM, Aria
                                                          Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          We
                                                          need a plan
                                                          for "36 hours
                                                          after
                                                          (possible)
                                                          eviction", not
                                                          just for 12
                                                          hours later at
                                                          the court
                                                          house. There's
                                                          a planning
                                                          meeting at E5
                                                          Sunday
                                                          starting at
                                                          noon. Demand
                                                          that A
                                                          Contingency
                                                          Plan be the
                                                          first agenda
                                                          item. And then
                                                          decide: move
                                                          as whole;
                                                          atomized into
                                                          smaller camps,
                                                          or disband?
                                                          And then
                                                          decide where
                                                          to go if
                                                          evicted. 
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          This
                                                          is my idea:
                                                          send an open
                                                          letter out NOW
                                                          to a list of
                                                          21 big indoor
                                                          spaces that
                                                          could, might,
                                                          and definitely
                                                          wouldn't, host
                                                          the entire
                                                          camp. This is
                                                          part PR, part
                                                          mission
                                                          central, and
                                                          part
                                                          functional
                                                          necessity.
                                                          Publicize the
                                                          answers. Of
                                                          course the
                                                          Federal
                                                          Reserve, the
                                                          Boston Public
                                                          Library, the
                                                          Boston Garden
                                                          etc. are going
                                                          to say no--the
                                                          point is to
                                                          make a point.
                                                          Hope that
                                                          three
                                                          churches,
                                                          especially one
                                                          in Dorchester
                                                          were we'd like
                                                          to strengthen
                                                          connections,
                                                          offers us a
                                                          place until
                                                          spring. We can
                                                          make an
                                                          eviction into
                                                          a "win-win"
                                                          situation if
                                                          we start PLAN
                                                          AHEAD.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Thu, Dec 8,
                                                          2011 at 6:47
                                                          AM, Sage
                                                          Radachowsky
                                                          <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          I
                                                          also feel a
                                                          need for us to
                                                          meet with the
                                                          Mayor's
                                                          office, and
                                                          have a
                                                          connection
                                                          that I have
                                                          not pulled
                                                          yet.  I think
                                                          that we should
                                                          do it in a
                                                          synchronized
                                                          and decided
                                                          way to
                                                          represent
                                                          Occupy Boston.
                                                            I have been
                                                          thinking
                                                          seriously
                                                          about the
                                                          diplomacy
                                                          aspect for
                                                          some time now.
                                                           I think we
                                                          should talk
                                                          about this at
                                                          the general
                                                          assembly
                                                          tonight.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          To
                                                          say that we
                                                          have no plans
                                                          of leaving the
                                                          square may not
                                                          be the right
                                                          message. You
                                                          already
                                                          communicated
                                                          that, and it
                                                          may hurt us.
                                                          We may decide
                                                          that we do
                                                          want to leave
                                                          the square. We
                                                          may decide
                                                          many other
                                                          things in
                                                          regard to
                                                          negotiation
                                                          and diplomacy.
                                                          
                                                          

                                                          Sage
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Wed, Dec 7,
                                                          2011 at 4:21
                                                          PM, Gregg
                                                          Housh <greggatghc at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          I
                                                          just got off
                                                          the phone with
                                                          the person who
                                                          has been my
                                                          go-between for
                                                          me and Menino,
                                                          its a close
                                                          friend of his.
                                                           Before I
                                                          called him,
                                                          Menino already
                                                          had.  Menino
                                                          is still of
                                                          the mindset
                                                          that we should
                                                          come to some
                                                          sort of
                                                          mediated
                                                          agreement with
                                                          him to get off
                                                          the land, and
                                                          maybe still
                                                          have use of it
                                                          or something
                                                          similar to
                                                          that.  I told
                                                          our mutual
                                                          friend to call
                                                          him back and
                                                          tell him we
                                                          want a meeting
                                                          this week.  I
                                                          also told him
                                                          that we have
                                                          no plans of
                                                          leaving the
                                                          square, but
                                                          that a meeting
                                                          before any
                                                          sort of action
                                                          on his part
                                                          would be a
                                                          good idea. 
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          That
                                                          is where we
                                                          stand with the
                                                          Mayor right
                                                          now.  He gave
                                                          our mutual
                                                          friend no
                                                          indication of
                                                          moving on us
                                                          tonight or
                                                          even soon.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          I
                                                          will write
                                                          back when I
                                                          hear back.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Wed, Dec 7,
                                                          2011 at 4:12
                                                          PM, Deborah
                                                          Sirotkin
                                                          Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          WELL
                                                          DONE.  This
                                                          definitely
                                                          "trumps" the
                                                          regular 7:00
                                                          PM meeting for
                                                          media.  I will
                                                          be down as
                                                          soon as I wrap
                                                          up a couple of
                                                          things in the
                                                          office.  Deb
                                                          Sirotkin
                                                          Butler 
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Wed, Dec 7,
                                                          2011 at 4:00
                                                          PM, Elias
                                                          Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Eric
                                                          thinks
                                                          emergency GA,
                                                          and I agree.
                                                          Have
                                                          emailed facilitation about
                                                          it. 
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Have
                                                          tweeted and
                                                          facebook'd
                                                          telling people
                                                          to come to
                                                          Dewey. Headed
                                                          to camp, will
                                                          be there
                                                          around 5-515.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Going
                                                          to send
                                                          emergency text
                                                          as soon as we
                                                          confirm
                                                          emergency GA.
                                                          Going to say
                                                          something
                                                          like.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          "BREAKING:
                                                          judge rules
                                                          against Occupy
                                                          Boston.
                                                          Nothing
                                                          protecting us
                                                          from being
                                                          raided.
                                                          Emergency
                                                          general
                                                          assembly
                                                          tonight 7pm
                                                          dewey sq.
                                                          Please come if
                                                          you can!"
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Wed, Dec 7,
                                                          2011 at 3:55
                                                          PM, Rachel
                                                          Plattus <rachelbp at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          Rita
                                                          and I are
                                                          here--no one
                                                          else in the
                                                          media tent.
                                                          Imagine press
                                                          will be
                                                          arriving soon.

                                                          

                                                          +1 on the
                                                          vigil--other
                                                          thoughts?

                                                          

                                                          rbp

                                                          

                                                          
                                                          --

                                                          Rachel
                                                          Berliner
                                                          Plattus

                                                          rachelbp at gmail.com

                                                          (203)-676-2280

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Wed, Dec 7,
                                                          2011 at 3:45
                                                          PM, Elias
                                                          Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Do
                                                          we want to
                                                          message to
                                                          emergency TXT
                                                          system and let
                                                          them know?
                                                          That's what
                                                          Ursala from
                                                          NLG wanted me
                                                          to do.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Invite
                                                          them to camp
                                                          for a 24/7
                                                          vigil tonight?
                                                          Last I hear
                                                          people were
                                                          talking about
                                                          having a 24/7
                                                          vigil in honor
                                                          of the 1st
                                                          amendment if
                                                          we lost. 
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          I'm
                                                          not going to
                                                          send anything
                                                          until I hear
                                                          from folks. We
                                                          need all hands
                                                          on deck. We
                                                          could get
                                                          raided
                                                          tonight. If
                                                          you can be at
                                                          camp, please
                                                          be there
                                                          tonight.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Eli
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          On
                                                          Wed, Dec 7,
                                                          2011 at 3:40
                                                          PM, Occupy
                                                          Eric <occupyeric at gmail.com>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Hi,
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          I
                                                          just got a
                                                          call from Ben,
                                                          one of the OB
                                                          lawyers, and
                                                          the Judge
                                                          ruling the
                                                          case has ruled
                                                          against our
                                                          case and has
                                                          lifted the
                                                          Temporary
                                                          Restraining
                                                          Order. Ben
                                                          asked me to
                                                          disseminate
                                                          this info
                                                          widely. I
                                                          haven't seen
                                                          the ruling and
                                                          don't know the
                                                          reasoning of
                                                          it. 
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Please
                                                          pass the word
                                                          on.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Solidarity,
                                                          
                                                          
                                                          Eric
                                                          
                                                           
                                                          
                                                          
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