[Street] [Ob-media] Boston.com reports Menino just gave Occupy a midnight deadline to leave

Martin m2 at occupyboston.org
Thu Dec 8 11:00:31 EST 2011


I'm support of self removal. to pull this off like we did with the tent 
on Monday. follow through with our plans.


On 12/8/11 10:41 AM, Wish, Benjamin wrote:
>
>
> No story yet.  I’ll forward once it’s up.
>
> *From:*legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org 
> [mailto:legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *Deborah Sirotkin Butler
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:37 AM
> *To:* Sage Radachowsky
> *Cc:* ideas at lists.occupyboston.org; ob-logistics; Aria Littlhous; 
> Occupy Boston Music and Events; Elias Feghali; street; Ravi Mishra; 
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> *Subject:* Re: [oblegal] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please 
> disseminate widely, brainstorm solutions
>
> +1
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Sage Radachowsky 
> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com <mailto:sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> i would add Dewey Square, if we can negotiate with the City to have 
> single large tent for continuous peaceable assembly.
>
> ... or the Boston Common, with a similar concession from the City 
> government.
>
> I guess it depends on what we call "camp".
>
> -Sage
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net 
> <mailto:aria at littlhous.net>> wrote:
>
> Brainstorm long and short term locations for the camp:
>
> Federal Reserve Conference Room
>
> City Hall Plaza
>
> Old South Meeting House
>
> Boston Public Library
>
> Boston Garden, or whatever it's called now
>
> John Hancock Observatory
>
> Old Parish Dorchester
>
> Unitarian Universalists, Boylston St.
>
> St. Patricks/Pauls, south end, Catholic Church largest land owner in 
> the world
>
> City Hall
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle 
> <yayinternets at gmail.com <mailto:yayinternets at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during 
> the wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and 
> steal our cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will 
> give us time to regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip 
> code in the area (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site 
> to organize this effort and plan rideshares, have movie nights, 
> potlucks).  This will also allow us to reach out to our communities 
> and gauge their needs, and rally more support despite temporarily 
> surrendering our major presence in the financial district.
>
> Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference space 
> for free for nonprofits.  Would be fun to plan a conference around how 
> we will regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that 
> brought us to Dewey in the first place.
>
> On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events" 
> <booking99percent at gmail.com <mailto:booking99percent at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>      + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided.  I have a
>     band that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as
>     usually as we are packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.
>
>     Kelley
>
>     On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos
>     <occupyprospecthill at gmail.com
>     <mailto:occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has
>     served it's purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and
>     show that there is a significant number of people that are
>     concerned and effected by our current socio-economic system. Sure,
>     one could make the argument that the camp is an important
>     representation of the first amendment - and it is - but this
>     movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp
>     peacefully could send a strong message that we are reasonable and
>     respectful, andthat we recognize that this phase of the movement
>     is over, which it is. We can do it peacefully or we can be forced
>     to leave, but in either scenario, it's over. Let's rally and get
>     ready for what's next!
>
>     Ben
>
>     On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>     <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com <mailto:sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>>
>     wrote:
>
>         I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a
>         beautiful way with a serious but hopeful feeling.   If we can
>         decide on this, and announce it, then we will have the time to
>         do this right, with dignity, and then plan the next actions.  
>         The alternative is a unified, fierce nonviolent resistance
>         with many arrests.  Anything in between will be a washout and
>         a messaging mess.  They both have their pros and cons.  Please
>         give opinions.
>
>         Sage
>
>         On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
>         <amberpaw at gmail.com <mailto:amberpaw at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         +1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least
>         as to Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and
>         disband the outdoor camp for the winter season - there are
>         some very effective ideas,plans, and history on the Occupy
>         Detroit website that I think are worth review.  Yeah.  I was
>         born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of Detroit - but
>         you cannot take Detroit out of the woman.  Deb Sirotkin Butler
>
>         On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous
>         <aria at littlhous.net <mailto:aria at littlhous.net>> wrote:
>
>         We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not
>         just for 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning
>         meeting at E5 Sunday starting at noon. Demand that A
>         Contingency Plan be the first agenda item. And then decide:
>         move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or disband? And
>         then decide where to go if evicted.
>
>         This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21
>         big indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't,
>         host the entire camp. This is part PR, part mission central,
>         and part functional necessity. Publicize the answers. Of
>         course the Federal Reserve, the Boston Public Library, the
>         Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is to make a
>         point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester
>         were we'd like to strengthen connections, offers us a place
>         until spring. We can make an eviction into a "win-win"
>         situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.
>
>         On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>         <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com
>         <mailto:sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office,
>             and have a connection that I have not pulled yet.  I think
>             that we should do it in a synchronized and decided way to
>             represent Occupy Boston.   I have been thinking seriously
>             about the diplomacy aspect for some time now.  I think we
>             should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.
>
>             To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not
>             be the right message. You already communicated that, and
>             it may hurt us. We may decide that we do want to leave the
>             square. We may decide many other things in regard to
>             negotiation and diplomacy.
>
>
>             Sage
>
>             On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh
>             <greggatghc at gmail.com <mailto:greggatghc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 I just got off the phone with the person who has been
>                 my go-between for me and Menino, its a close friend of
>                 his.  Before I called him, Menino already had.  Menino
>                 is still of the mindset that we should come to some
>                 sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the
>                 land, and maybe still have use of it or something
>                 similar to that.  I told our mutual friend to call him
>                 back and tell him we want a meeting this week.  I also
>                 told him that we have no plans of leaving the square,
>                 but that a meeting before any sort of action on his
>                 part would be a good idea.
>
>                 That is where we stand with the Mayor right now.  He
>                 gave our mutual friend no indication of moving on us
>                 tonight or even soon.
>
>                 I will write back when I hear back.
>
>                 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin
>                 Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:amberpaw at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                     WELL DONE.  This definitely "trumps" the regular
>                     7:00 PM meeting for media.  I will be down as soon
>                     as I wrap up a couple of things in the office. 
>                     Deb Sirotkin Butler
>
>                     On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali
>                     <efeghali at gmail.com <mailto:efeghali at gmail.com>>
>                     wrote:
>
>                         Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have
>                         emailed facilitation about it.
>
>                         Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to
>                         come to Dewey. Headed to camp, will be there
>                         around 5-515.
>
>                         Going to send emergency text as soon as we
>                         confirm emergency GA. Going to say something like.
>
>                         "BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston.
>                         Nothing protecting us from being raided.
>                         Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm dewey
>                         sq. Please come if you can!"
>
>                         On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus
>                         <rachelbp at gmail.com
>                         <mailto:rachelbp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                         Rita and I are here--no one else in the media
>                         tent. Imagine press will be arriving soon.
>
>                         +1 on the vigil--other thoughts?
>
>                         rbp
>
>
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>
>                         On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali
>                         <efeghali at gmail.com
>                         <mailto:efeghali at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                             Do we want to message to emergency TXT
>                             system and let them know? That's what
>                             Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.
>
>                             Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil
>                             tonight? Last I hear people were talking
>                             about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of the
>                             1st amendment if we lost.
>
>                             I'm not going to send anything until I
>                             hear from folks. We need all hands on
>                             deck. We could get raided tonight. If you
>                             can be at camp, please be there tonight.
>
>                             Eli
>
>                             On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy
>                             Eric <occupyeric at gmail.com
>                             <mailto:occupyeric at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                                 Hi,
>
>                                 I just got a call from Ben, one of the
>                                 OB lawyers, and the Judge ruling the
>                                 case has ruled against our case and
>                                 has lifted the Temporary Restraining
>                                 Order. Ben asked me to disseminate
>                                 this info widely. I haven't seen the
>                                 ruling and don't know the reasoning of
>                                 it.
>
>                                 Please pass the word on.
>
>                                 Solidarity,
>
>                                 Eric
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