[Street] [oblegal] Boston.com reports Menino just gave Occupy a midnight deadline to leave
Sage Radachowsky
sage.radachowsky at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 10:58:32 EST 2011
Well, Menino just gave us a midnight deadline.
However, I heard from the City.
If we agree to decamp by Sunday, I think that we will have until Sunday
with no raid.
We must be serious. We must help people who have no other place to go.
We can make a stand when the circumstance is clearer, and everyone is
voluntarily doing it.
The lunch counter at Woolworths was a place to take a stand. The front
seat of the bus was a place to take a stand. This may not be the place.
We may create the place in the future, in a more planned action.
Sage
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Wish, Benjamin <bwish at toddweld.com> wrote:
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> Here’s the story:
> http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2011/12/menino-gives-occupy-boston-protesters-midnight-deadline-threatens-further-action/22LNO3yr2zZLLpWWvPZlSK/index.html
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> He says if folks don’t leave “we’ll take further action.”****
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> *From:* legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org [mailto:
> legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org] *On Behalf Of *Wish,
> Benjamin
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:42 AM
> *To:* 'Deborah Sirotkin Butler'; Sage Radachowsky
> *Cc:* obit; ob-logistics; Aria Littlhous; Occupy Boston Music and Events;
> Elias Feghali; street; Ravi Mishra; transparency at lists.mayfirst.org;
> Occupy Boston Winterization Working Group; ideas at lists.occupyboston.org;
> ob-media at lists.occupyboston.org; legal at lists.occupyboston.org; OB
> Finance; Beauregard Lyle
> *Subject:* [oblegal] Boston.com reports Menino just gave Occupy a
> midnight deadline to leave****
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> No story yet. I’ll forward once it’s up.****
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> *From:* legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org [mailto:
> legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org] *On Behalf Of *Deborah
> Sirotkin Butler
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:37 AM
> *To:* Sage Radachowsky
> *Cc:* ideas at lists.occupyboston.org; ob-logistics; Aria Littlhous; Occupy
> Boston Music and Events; Elias Feghali; street; Ravi Mishra;
> transparency at lists.mayfirst.org; Occupy Boston Winterization Working
> Group; obit; ob-media at lists.occupyboston.org; legal at lists.occupyboston.org;
> OB Finance; Beauregard Lyle
> *Subject:* Re: [oblegal] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please
> disseminate widely, brainstorm solutions****
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> +1****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> i would add Dewey Square, if we can negotiate with the City to have single
> large tent for continuous peaceable assembly.****
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> ... or the Boston Common, with a similar concession from the City
> government.****
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> I guess it depends on what we call "camp".****
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> -Sage****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net> wrote:
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> Brainstorm long and short term locations for the camp:****
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> Federal Reserve Conference Room****
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> City Hall Plaza****
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> Old South Meeting House****
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> Boston Public Library****
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> Boston Garden, or whatever it's called now****
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> John Hancock Observatory****
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> Old Parish Dorchester****
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> Unitarian Universalists, Boylston St.****
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> St. Patricks/Pauls, south end, Catholic Church largest land owner in the
> world****
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> City Hall****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
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> I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during the
> wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and steal
> our cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will give us time
> to regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip code in the area
> (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize this effort
> and plan rideshares, have movie nights, potlucks). This will also allow us
> to reach out to our communities and gauge their needs, and rally more
> support despite temporarily surrendering our major presence in the
> financial district.****
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> Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference space for
> free for nonprofits. Would be fun to plan a conference around how we will
> regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that brought us
> to Dewey in the first place.****
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> On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events" <
> booking99percent at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided. I have a band
> that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as usually as we are
> packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.****
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> Kelley****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos <occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
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> Hi all,****
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> I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has served it's
> purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and show that there is a
> significant number of people that are concerned and effected by our current
> socio-economic system. Sure, one could make the argument that the camp is
> an important representation of the first amendment - and it is - but this
> movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp peacefully could
> send a strong message that we are reasonable and respectful, andthat
> we recognize that this phase of the movement is over, which it is. We can
> do it peacefully or we can be forced to leave, but in either scenario, it's
> over. Let's rally and get ready for what's next!****
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> Ben****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a beautiful
> way with a serious but hopeful feeling. If we can decide on this, and
> announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with dignity, and
> then plan the next actions. The alternative is a unified, fierce
> nonviolent resistance with many arrests. Anything in between will be a
> washout and a messaging mess. They both have their pros and cons. Please
> give opinions. ****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> +1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as to Occupy
> Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband the outdoor camp
> for the winter season - there are some very effective ideas,plans, and
> history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are worth review.
> Yeah. I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of Detroit - but
> you cannot take Detroit out of the woman. Deb Sirotkin Butler ****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net> wrote:
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> We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not just for 12
> hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting at E5 Sunday
> starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first agenda item.
> And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or disband?
> And then decide where to go if evicted. ****
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> This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big indoor
> spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host the entire camp.
> This is part PR, part mission central, and part functional necessity.
> Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the Boston Public
> Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is to make a
> point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester were we'd
> like to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We can make
> an eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.****
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and have a
> connection that I have not pulled yet. I think that we should do it in a
> synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston. I have been
> thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time now. I think
> we should talk about this at the general assembly tonight. ****
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> To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be the right
> message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt us. We may decide
> that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many other things in
> regard to negotiation and diplomacy.****
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> Sage****
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <greggatghc at gmail.com> wrote:*
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> I just got off the phone with the person who has been my go-between for
> me and Menino, its a close friend of his. Before I called him, Menino
> already had. Menino is still of the mindset that we should come to some
> sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and maybe still
> have use of it or something similar to that. I told our mutual friend to
> call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week. I also told him
> that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a meeting before any
> sort of action on his part would be a good idea. ****
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> That is where we stand with the Mayor right now. He gave our mutual
> friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even soon.****
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> I will write back when I hear back.****
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> WELL DONE. This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM meeting for
> media. I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of things in the
> office. Deb Sirotkin Butler ****
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:*
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> Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have emailed facilitation about
> it. ****
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> Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey. Headed to
> camp, will be there around 5-515.****
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> Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm emergency GA. Going to
> say something like.****
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> "BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing protecting us from
> being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm dewey sq. Please come
> if you can!"****
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus <rachelbp at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine press will be
> arriving soon.
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> +1 on the vigil--other thoughts?
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> rbp
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> Rachel Berliner Plattus
> rachelbp at gmail.com
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:*
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> Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let them know? That's
> what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do. ****
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> Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear people were
> talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of the 1st amendment if we
> lost. ****
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> I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks. We need all hands
> on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you can be at camp, please be
> there tonight.****
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> Eli****
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric <occupyeric at gmail.com> wrote:*
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> Hi, ****
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> I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and the Judge ruling
> the case has ruled against our case and has lifted the Temporary
> Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate this info widely. I haven't
> seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of it. ****
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> Please pass the word on.****
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> Solidarity,****
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> Eric****
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