[Street] [oblegal] Boston.com reports Menino just gave Occupy a midnight deadline to leave

Wish, Benjamin bwish at toddweld.com
Thu Dec 8 10:50:07 EST 2011


Here's the story: http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2011/12/menino-gives-occupy-boston-protesters-midnight-deadline-threatens-further-action/22LNO3yr2zZLLpWWvPZlSK/index.html

He says if folks don't leave "we'll take further action."

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Subject: [oblegal] Boston.com reports Menino just gave Occupy a midnight deadline to leave


No story yet.  I'll forward once it's up.

From: legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org [mailto:legal-bounces+bwish=toddweld.com at lists.occupyboston.org] On Behalf Of Deborah Sirotkin Butler
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:37 AM
To: Sage Radachowsky
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Subject: Re: [oblegal] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely, brainstorm solutions

+1
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Sage Radachowsky <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com><mailto:sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>> wrote:
i would add Dewey Square, if we can negotiate with the City to have single large tent for continuous peaceable assembly.
... or the Boston Common, with a similar concession from the City government.

I guess it depends on what we call "camp".

-Sage



On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net><mailto:aria at littlhous.net>> wrote:
Brainstorm long and short term locations for the camp:
Federal Reserve Conference Room
City Hall Plaza
Old South Meeting House
Boston Public Library
Boston Garden, or whatever it's called now
John Hancock Observatory
Old Parish Dorchester
Unitarian Universalists, Boylston St.
St. Patricks/Pauls, south end, Catholic Church largest land owner in the world
City Hall



On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com><mailto:yayinternets at gmail.com>> wrote:

I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during the wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and steal our cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will give us time to regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip code in the area (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize this effort and plan rideshares, have movie nights, potlucks).  This will also allow us to reach out to our communities and gauge their needs, and rally more support despite temporarily surrendering our major presence in the financial district.

Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference space for free for nonprofits.  Would be fun to plan a conference around how we will regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that brought us to Dewey in the first place.
On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events" <booking99percent at gmail.com><mailto:booking99percent at gmail.com>> wrote:
 + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided.  I have a band that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as usually as we are packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.
Kelley

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos <occupyprospecthill at gmail.com><mailto:occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has served it's purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and show that there is a significant number of people that are concerned and effected by our current socio-economic system. Sure, one could make the argument that the camp is an important representation of the first amendment - and it is - but this movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp peacefully could send a strong message that we are reasonable and respectful, andthat we recognize that this phase of the movement is over, which it is. We can do it peacefully or we can be forced to leave, but in either scenario, it's over. Let's rally and get ready for what's next!

Ben
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com><mailto:sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>> wrote:
I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a beautiful way with a serious but hopeful feeling.   If we can decide on this, and announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with dignity, and then plan the next actions.   The alternative is a unified, fierce nonviolent resistance with many arrests.  Anything in between will be a washout and a messaging mess.  They both have their pros and cons.  Please give opinions.

Sage




On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com><mailto:amberpaw at gmail.com>> wrote:
+1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as to Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband the outdoor camp for the winter season - there are some very effective ideas,plans, and history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are worth review.  Yeah.  I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of Detroit - but you cannot take Detroit out of the woman.  Deb Sirotkin Butler

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net><mailto:aria at littlhous.net>> wrote:
We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not just for 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting at E5 Sunday starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first agenda item. And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or disband? And then decide where to go if evicted.

This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host the entire camp. This is part PR, part mission central, and part functional necessity. Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the Boston Public Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is to make a point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester were we'd like to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We can make an eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com><mailto:sage.radachowsky at gmail.com>> wrote:
I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and have a connection that I have not pulled yet.  I think that we should do it in a synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston.   I have been thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time now.  I think we should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.

To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be the right message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt us. We may decide that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many other things in regard to negotiation and diplomacy.

Sage



On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <greggatghc at gmail.com><mailto:greggatghc at gmail.com>> wrote:
I just got off the phone with the person who has been my go-between for me and Menino, its a close friend of his.  Before I called him, Menino already had.  Menino is still of the mindset that we should come to some sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and maybe still have use of it or something similar to that.  I told our mutual friend to call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week.  I also told him that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a meeting before any sort of action on his part would be a good idea.

That is where we stand with the Mayor right now.  He gave our mutual friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even soon.

I will write back when I hear back.


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com><mailto:amberpaw at gmail.com>> wrote:
WELL DONE.  This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM meeting for media.  I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of things in the office.  Deb Sirotkin Butler
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com><mailto:efeghali at gmail.com>> wrote:
Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have emailed facilitation about it.

Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey. Headed to camp, will be there around 5-515.

Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm emergency GA. Going to say something like.

"BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing protecting us from being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm dewey sq. Please come if you can!"


On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus <rachelbp at gmail.com><mailto:rachelbp at gmail.com>> wrote:
Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine press will be arriving soon.

+1 on the vigil--other thoughts?

rbp


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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali <efeghali at gmail.com><mailto:efeghali at gmail.com>> wrote:
Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let them know? That's what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.

Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear people were talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of the 1st amendment if we lost.

I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks. We need all hands on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you can be at camp, please be there tonight.

Eli
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric <occupyeric at gmail.com><mailto:occupyeric at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and the Judge ruling the case has ruled against our case and has lifted the Temporary Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate this info widely. I haven't seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of it.

Please pass the word on.

Solidarity,
Eric

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