[Street] Summary of call re: pushing the event back
Theresa
theresa at occupyboston.org
Sat Nov 26 17:43:50 EST 2011
I think the 3rd is our best option....especially with the court
hearing this week. It is a way to keep momentum even if the camp gets
cleared.
Please confirm the date. I start calls Monday morning
Quoting Occupy Eric <occupyeric at gmail.com>:
> Point of Info: Students will likely have a hard time with a Dec 10 march.
>
> Also, since this has been billed as a crowd-source event, us making the
> decision to postpone the march isn't really in the spirit of this march, in
> my opinion.
>
> Solidarity!
> Eric
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Brett West <heavyriser at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Joe,
>>
>> Yes, word is out about this event for sure. Some who have been organizing
>> it feel that it may not be to late to postpone it and make it better by
>> doing so. You should bring these concerns to the meeting on Monday.
>>
>> The more community support shows up on Monday the better the chances of
>> holding to the Dec. 3 date
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Joseph Ramsey <jgramsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The call for this action has already been issued, has it not? I
>>> personally forwarded it to several lists today!
>>>
>>> To postpone now is to sew confusion, isn't it?
>>>
>>> Also, with the possibility of an immanent assault on Dewey Square very
>>> real post Dec. 1, isn't it important to do this sort of aggressive outreach
>>> and rallying of the community (in support of occupy generally, and in
>>> defense of dewey in particular) sooner rather than later?
>>>
>>> -Joe
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:33 PM, David Lamoso
>>> <davidlamoso16 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joseph
>>>> The event there talking about is the Unity Day of Action ditributed
>>>> march on Dec 3. We are meeting on Monday at 5:00pm in 26 West st, Boston.
>>>> For details of it.
>>>> En Sokidaridad
>>>> DavidLamoso
>>>> Davidlamoso16 at gmail.com
>>>> Sent from my MetroPCS Wireless Phone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joseph Ramsey <jgramsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Which "event" is being spoken of here?
>>>> >
>>>> >as a general point of process: It would be helpful if people made their
>>>> >referrents (whether to people, places, or events) clear in all emails.
>>>> Or
>>>> >at least in all *new* topic emails.
>>>> >
>>>> > So many people are constantly coming into our conversations in the
>>>> middle
>>>> >that confusion is inevitable, especially if the "theys" "him"s "her"s
>>>> and
>>>> >"this"s arent't explicit throughout.
>>>> >
>>>> >Best,
>>>> >Joe
>>>> >
>>>> >On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Ravi Mishra <ravi at occupyboston.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> We had about 6-8 people on the call. We pretty quickly decided that
>>>> the
>>>> >> two dates were going to be the 3rd or one week later, the 10th. There
>>>> were
>>>> >> a lot of reasons to keep the march on the 3rd that David, Michael, and
>>>> >> Simon went into. From what I remember, Katie voiced her concerns and
>>>> seemed
>>>> >> undecided. Brett seemed convinced to keep it on the 3rd.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I thought it would be useful to keep the conversation going,
>>>> especially as
>>>> >> I'm pretty in favor of pushing it back and giving us an extra week. I
>>>> >> wanted to go into my reasoning below, and start a thread so we could
>>>> >> discuss. We made no conclusion other than to bring it up on Monday at
>>>> the
>>>> >> meeting, first thing. Without further ado, why I think we should push
>>>> it
>>>> >> back:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1) The "open source" piece of demonstrations is just doesn't have
>>>> enough
>>>> >> momentum behind it. To me, the promise of this event is that we
>>>> empower
>>>> >> individuals to use their creativity to come up with novel types of
>>>> actions
>>>> >> - hopefully ones that, long term, serve as a blueprint for more
>>>> effective
>>>> >> demonstrations in the future. Right now, we have very few actions
>>>> listed (
>>>> >>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah3pFB7dtoJJdERLcDU3WG1WMHpaSDZkeE03X1d4SHc&hl=en_US#gid=0
>>>> )
>>>> >> - people knew to the concept of the event are hearing about it and
>>>> then
>>>> >> seeing us not have any cool, crowdsourced events planned. Further,
>>>> we've
>>>> >> made none of the materials we talked about - the flyers about the
>>>> various
>>>> >> issues, personal stories, etc.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2) The rally. As far as I know, we have nothing planned, nor have we
>>>> >> reached out to the police or done much prep work.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 3) Community orgs - outside of a handful, we haven't really reached
>>>> out to
>>>> >> many. Judging by the reaction of the ones we have reached out to,
>>>> having
>>>> >> more time to do more outreach could be huge.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 4) The amount we gain is much more than the amount we lose.
>>>> Ultimately, I
>>>> >> don't think pushing it back really has much downside - people are
>>>> listening
>>>> >> to us, and we can easily get the message out (and spin it as a
>>>> positive for
>>>> >> us: we have a lot of interest and we want to give both the various
>>>> >> communities and ourselves more time to prepare a great event - Simon's
>>>> >> great idea for how we could frame it). And more time gives us some
>>>> >> breathing room to make sure we pull off a great event.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Ultimately, the beauty of this event, in my mind, is that first that
>>>> we
>>>>
>>>> >> would take over the city with a variety of demonstrations, and
>>>> second, that
>>>> >> we would create a culture of innovation when it comes to actions, and
>>>> get
>>>> >> people thinking about how to make them more effective, informative,
>>>> and fun.
>>>> >> * Right now, with the event 8 days away, I feel like an extra week
>>>> would
>>>> >> be a great idea.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Finally, I think I speak for everyone on the call when I say that,
>>>> >> whatever the final decision, we'll be diving in 100% to make this a
>>>> great
>>>> >> event.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Ravi
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>
>>
>> You can do anything you want, as long as you don't wait for permission.
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