[Street] [Ob-media] [Transparency] [Ideas] [Obit] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely
Julie O
juliettejulianna at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 11:07:37 EST 2011
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On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:01 AM, M. Sheridan <occupocalypse at gmail.com>wrote:
> The city does not act in good faith. I strongly appose any attempt at
> negotiation. They have been hostile for weeks now, what we must do now is
> remain peaceful, remove valuable items from camp, and link arms.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, Menino just gave us a midnight deadline.
>>
>> However, I heard from the City.
>>
>> If we agree to decamp by Sunday, I think that we will have until Sunday
>> with no raid.
>>
>> We must be serious. We must help people who have no other place to go.
>>
>> We can make a stand when the circumstance is clearer, and everyone is
>> voluntarily doing it.
>>
>> The lunch counter at Woolworths was a place to take a stand. The front
>> seat of the bus was a place to take a stand. This may not be the place.
>> We may create the place in the future, in a more planned action.
>>
>> Sage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> simply work with us as human beings to make sure the space is safe and
>>>> sound for use of the public
>>>
>>>
>>> Quite frankly, if the city is willing to endanger us in order to build a
>>> case against us, I don't know what amount of reason we can expect from the
>>> city any longer. Also I feel strongly the city reacted disproportionately
>>> during the Columbus day raid and on other occasions in order to engineer
>>> news that we are costing them too much money.
>>>
>>> While we should be optimistic with the negotiations, there should be
>>> some awareness and acknowledgement that the city acts not on good faith but
>>> on interests that can be interpreted to represent that which our very
>>> movement antagonizes. Perhaps during negotiations we should ask for
>>> conditions for us to leave on our own volition, including immediate
>>> accountability of the city's expenses and so we can spend wintertime
>>> investigating the city's wasteful costs, including stealing sinks.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Michael Becker <
>>> michael_becker at meei.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> opening the tent to the public at large is key both for making Occupy
>>>> less likely to be miscast as a hostile place for "outsiders", but also
>>>> bring in reams of fresh new ideas
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>>>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Negotiation is still an option. We may still be able to meet with
>>>> the City
>>>> > and negotiate something that is more than a complete retreat. We
>>>> have a
>>>> > lot to talk about at General Assembly tonight.
>>>> >
>>>> > One idea is to negotiate having a single large tent through the
>>>> Winter, not
>>>> > for sleeping, but for a continuous peaceable assembly. We have had
>>>> our eye
>>>> > on a 52'x18' tent that is large enough to hold a general assembly. I
>>>> am sure
>>>> > we are able to muster enough Winter soldiers to keep at least three
>>>> people
>>>> > in the tent at all times. The tent would of course be open to the
>>>> public at
>>>> > large, so we would not be occupying the space in the sense of seizing
>>>> it for
>>>> > our own use, but we would be occupying the sense of holding it for
>>>> public
>>>> > dialogue on the important issues of our economy and democracy and
>>>> social
>>>> > justice.
>>>> >
>>>> > If the City is at all reasonable, then it would concede to this single
>>>> > request, and put aside the technicalities of permitting, and simply
>>>> work
>>>> > with us as human beings to make sure the space is safe and sound for
>>>> use of
>>>> > the public. After all, come on, there is a huge tent on Government
>>>> Center
>>>> > Plaza for Peter Pan! If Peter Pan is worth a tent on public space,
>>>> then
>>>> > aren't our goals worthy?
>>>> >
>>>> > If the City says no to this simple request, they will not look so
>>>> good.
>>>> > If they say yes, then we still get to have a physical presence until
>>>> > Spring.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sage
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle <
>>>> yayinternets at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during
>>>> the
>>>> >> wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and
>>>> steal our
>>>> >> cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will give us
>>>> time to
>>>> >> regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip code in the
>>>> area
>>>> >> (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize this
>>>> effort
>>>> >> and plan rideshares, have movie nights, potlucks). This will also
>>>> allow us
>>>> >> to reach out to our communities and gauge their needs, and rally more
>>>> >> support despite temporarily surrendering our major presence in the
>>>> financial
>>>> >> district.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference
>>>> space for
>>>> >> free for nonprofits. Would be fun to plan a conference around how
>>>> we will
>>>> >> regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that
>>>> brought us to
>>>> >> Dewey in the first place.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events"
>>>> >> <booking99percent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided. I have a
>>>> band
>>>> >>> that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as usually as
>>>> we are
>>>> >>> packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.
>>>> >>> Kelley
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos <
>>>> occupyprospecthill at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Hi all,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has
>>>> served
>>>> >>>> it's purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and show that
>>>> there is
>>>> >>>> a significant number of people that are concerned and effected by
>>>> our
>>>> >>>> current socio-economic system. Sure, one could make the argument
>>>> that the
>>>> >>>> camp is an important representation of the first amendment - and
>>>> it is - but
>>>> >>>> this movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp
>>>> peacefully
>>>> >>>> could send a strong message that we are reasonable and respectful,
>>>> andthat
>>>> >>>> we recognize that this phase of the movement is over, which it is.
>>>> We can do
>>>> >>>> it peacefully or we can be forced to leave, but in either
>>>> scenario, it's
>>>> >>>> over. Let's rally and get ready for what's next!
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>>>> >>>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a
>>>> beautiful
>>>> >>>>> way with a serious but hopeful feeling. If we can decide on
>>>> this, and
>>>> >>>>> announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with
>>>> dignity, and
>>>> >>>>> then plan the next actions. The alternative is a unified, fierce
>>>> >>>>> nonviolent resistance with many arrests. Anything in between
>>>> will be a
>>>> >>>>> washout and a messaging mess. They both have their pros and
>>>> cons. Please
>>>> >>>>> give opinions.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Sage
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
>>>> >>>>> <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> +1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as
>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband
>>>> the outdoor
>>>> >>>>>> camp for the winter season - there are some very effective
>>>> ideas,plans, and
>>>> >>>>>> history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are worth
>>>> review. Yeah.
>>>> >>>>>> I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of Detroit -
>>>> but you
>>>> >>>>>> cannot take Detroit out of the woman. Deb Sirotkin Butler
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <
>>>> aria at littlhous.net>
>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not
>>>> just for
>>>> >>>>>>> 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting
>>>> at E5 Sunday
>>>> >>>>>>> starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first
>>>> agenda item.
>>>> >>>>>>> And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or
>>>> disband? And
>>>> >>>>>>> then decide where to go if evicted.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big
>>>> >>>>>>> indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host
>>>> the entire
>>>> >>>>>>> camp. This is part PR, part mission central, and part
>>>> functional necessity.
>>>> >>>>>>> Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the
>>>> Boston Public
>>>> >>>>>>> Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point
>>>> is to make a
>>>> >>>>>>> point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester
>>>> were we'd like
>>>> >>>>>>> to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We
>>>> can make an
>>>> >>>>>>> eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky
>>>> >>>>>>> <sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and
>>>> have
>>>> >>>>>>>> a connection that I have not pulled yet. I think that we
>>>> should do it in a
>>>> >>>>>>>> synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston. I
>>>> have been
>>>> >>>>>>>> thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time
>>>> now. I think we
>>>> >>>>>>>> should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>> right message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt
>>>> us. We may
>>>> >>>>>>>> decide that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many
>>>> other things
>>>> >>>>>>>> in regard to negotiation and diplomacy.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Sage
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <
>>>> greggatghc at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just got off the phone with the person who has been my
>>>> go-between
>>>> >>>>>>>>> for me and Menino, its a close friend of his. Before I
>>>> called him, Menino
>>>> >>>>>>>>> already had. Menino is still of the mindset that we should
>>>> come to some
>>>> >>>>>>>>> sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and
>>>> maybe still
>>>> >>>>>>>>> have use of it or something similar to that. I told our
>>>> mutual friend to
>>>> >>>>>>>>> call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week. I
>>>> also told him
>>>> >>>>>>>>> that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a
>>>> meeting before any
>>>> >>>>>>>>> sort of action on his part would be a good idea.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is where we stand with the Mayor right now. He gave our
>>>> >>>>>>>>> mutual friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even
>>>> soon.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will write back when I hear back.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler
>>>> >>>>>>>>> <amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WELL DONE. This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM
>>>> meeting
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> for media. I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of
>>>> things in the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> office. Deb Sirotkin Butler
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <
>>>> efeghali at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> emailed facilitation about it.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Headed to camp, will be there around 5-515.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm
>>>> emergency GA.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Going to say something like.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing
>>>> protecting
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> us from being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight
>>>> 7pm dewey sq.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please come if you can!"
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <rachelbp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> press will be arriving soon.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the vigil--other thoughts?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbp
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Berliner Plattus
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rachelbp at gmail.com
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (203)-676-2280
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let them
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know? That's what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people were talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of
>>>> the 1st amendment
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if we lost.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks.
>>>> We need
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> all hands on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you
>>>> can be at camp,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please be there tonight.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eli
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <occupyeric at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judge ruling the case has ruled against our case and has
>>>> lifted the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Temporary Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate
>>>> this info widely. I
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of
>>>> it.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please pass the word on.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solidarity,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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