[Street] [Winter] [Ideas] Temporary Restraining Order Lifted. Please disseminate widely, brainstorm solutions

Patricia Downer patricia.downer at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 10:40:48 EST 2011


I would just like to throw into this discussion that IF the GA decides to
move to a new location, I believe it is vital to try to keep the location
somewhat central to downtown for several reasons.

1) Visibility - Downtown is where much of the power is. Downtown is
extremely busy with workers and visitors to the city.

2) A central location means easier access for all. - People who support OB
come from all parts of the city and surrounding areas. A move too far
north, south, or west would make it more difficult for a large number of
people to access the camp. Staying downtown allows not only easy subway and
bus access, but also easy commuter rail access. As some one who relies on
the commuter rail to get to/from the city, any move too far from downtown
would likely make it impossible (or at least HIGHLY impractical) for me to
get to OB regularly. I am sure I am not the only one for whom this is a
concern.

Patricia Downer
978-473-9716


On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Bruce Ehrlich <occupybruce at gmail.com>wrote:

> Louisburg Square (privately owned)
> Parcel P-3 (large, long-vacant parcel across from Police Headquarters on
> Columbus Ave, Roxbury.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net>wrote:
>
>> We need a Plan B proposal to bring to GA tonight! I"m sure
>> disband/not/atomize will be first on the agenda and then what? Please help
>> brainstorm long and short term locations for the camp by adding to this
>> list:
>>
>>  MFA
>>  Federal Reserve Conference Room, temporary
>> foreclosed homes (atomized)
>> warehouses--stay whole
>>  City Hall Plaza
>> Old South Meeting House
>> Boston Public Library
>> Boston Garden, or whatever it's called now
>> John Hancock Observatory
>> First Parish Dorchester
>>  Large clubs and theatres
>> Fanuiel Hall
>> Hynes Convention Center
>> Bank of America
>> hotels and other elite spaces that got big subsidies--wonk help please!
>>
>> .this is the "no room at the inn open letter strategy"..another idea
>> would be to move the camp every week
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Brian Browne <seemsalon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> The Museum of Fine Arts is free on Wednesday evenings on Huntington Ave
>>> on Wednesdays after 6p. Very large spaces.
>>>
>>> The ICA, Institute of Contemporary Art, a few blocks away from Dewey and
>>> on the silver line is free on Thursdays after 6p. The water wall room.
>>>
>>> Guise the gathering as a group art tour.
>>>
>>> Stand close together.
>>>
>>> It is so quiet there is NO NEED TO MIC CHECK. We could whisper.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>  On Dec 8, 2011 10:00 AM, "Aria Littlhous" <aria at littlhous.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Brainstorm long and short term locations for the camp:
>>>> Federal Reserve Conference Room
>>>> City Hall Plaza
>>>> Old South Meeting House
>>>> Boston Public Library
>>>> Boston Garden, or whatever it's called now
>>>> John Hancock Observatory
>>>> Old Parish Dorchester
>>>> Unitarian Universalists, Boylston St.
>>>> St. Patricks/Pauls, south end, Catholic Church largest land owner in
>>>> the world
>>>> City Hall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Beauregard Lyle <yayinternets at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think saying we are decentralizing the downtown encampment during
>>>>> the wintertime in light of the city's clear efforts to demonize us and
>>>>> steal our cleaning supplies in order to build a case againt us will give us
>>>>> time to regroup strongly in the spring. Let's occupy every zip code in the
>>>>> area (weekly meetings in volunteer's houses? Buid a site to organize this
>>>>> effort and plan rideshares, have movie nights, potlucks).  This will also
>>>>> allow us to reach out to our communities and gauge their needs, and rally
>>>>> more support despite temporarily surrendering our major presence in the
>>>>> financial district.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting to note: Federal Reserve Building offers conference space
>>>>> for free for nonprofits.  Would be fun to plan a conference around how we
>>>>> will regroup ourselves in the spring in the very same building that brought
>>>>> us to Dewey in the first place.
>>>>>  On Dec 8, 2011 9:07 AM, "Occupy Boston Music and Events" <
>>>>> booking99percent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   + 1. I agree ,Lets all Stand Together and not divided.  I have a
>>>>>> band that wants to play on Sunday. I say we carry on, biz as usually as we
>>>>>> are packing up. Ben.. thank you too for all you did.
>>>>>> Kelley
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ben Janos <
>>>>>> occupyprospecthill at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Sage that we should decamp together. The camp has
>>>>>>> served it's purpose, which was to bring light to inequality and show that
>>>>>>> there is a significant number of people that are concerned and effected by
>>>>>>> our current socio-economic system. Sure, one could make the argument that
>>>>>>> the camp is an important representation of the first amendment - and it is
>>>>>>> - but this movement is not about the first amendment. Disbanding camp
>>>>>>> peacefully could send a strong message that we are reasonable and
>>>>>>> respectful, andthat we recognize that this phase of the movement is over,
>>>>>>> which it is. We can do it peacefully or we can be forced to leave, but in
>>>>>>> either scenario, it's over. Let's rally and get ready for what's next!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
>>>>>>> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I would like us to swiftly decide to decamp on Sunday, in a
>>>>>>>> beautiful way with a serious but hopeful feeling.   If we can decide on
>>>>>>>> this, and announce it, then we will have the time to do this right, with
>>>>>>>> dignity, and then plan the next actions.   The alternative is a unified,
>>>>>>>> fierce nonviolent resistance with many arrests.  Anything in between will
>>>>>>>> be a washout and a messaging mess.  They both have their pros and cons.
>>>>>>>>  Please give opinions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
>>>>>>>> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 - to be effective, this movement must evolve, and at least as
>>>>>>>>> to Occupy Detroit, what they did is secure indoor space and disband the
>>>>>>>>> outdoor camp for the winter season - there are some very effective
>>>>>>>>> ideas,plans, and history on the Occupy Detroit website that I think are
>>>>>>>>> worth review.  Yeah.  I was born in Detroit - you can take the woman out of
>>>>>>>>> Detroit - but you cannot take Detroit out of the woman.  Deb Sirotkin
>>>>>>>>> Butler
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Aria Littlhous <aria at littlhous.net
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need a plan for "36 hours after (possible) eviction", not just
>>>>>>>>>> for 12 hours later at the court house. There's a planning meeting at E5
>>>>>>>>>> Sunday starting at noon. Demand that A Contingency Plan be the first agenda
>>>>>>>>>> item. And then decide: move as whole; atomized into smaller camps, or
>>>>>>>>>> disband? And then decide where to go if evicted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is my idea: send an open letter out NOW to a list of 21 big
>>>>>>>>>> indoor spaces that could, might, and definitely wouldn't, host the entire
>>>>>>>>>> camp. This is part PR, part mission central, and part functional necessity.
>>>>>>>>>> Publicize the answers. Of course the Federal Reserve, the Boston Public
>>>>>>>>>> Library, the Boston Garden etc. are going to say no--the point is to make a
>>>>>>>>>> point. Hope that three churches, especially one in Dorchester were we'd
>>>>>>>>>> like to strengthen connections, offers us a place until spring. We can make
>>>>>>>>>> an eviction into a "win-win" situation if we start PLAN AHEAD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sage Radachowsky <
>>>>>>>>>> sage.radachowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I also feel a need for us to meet with the Mayor's office, and
>>>>>>>>>>> have a connection that I have not pulled yet.  I think that we should do it
>>>>>>>>>>> in a synchronized and decided way to represent Occupy Boston.   I have been
>>>>>>>>>>> thinking seriously about the diplomacy aspect for some time now.  I think
>>>>>>>>>>> we should talk about this at the general assembly tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To say that we have no plans of leaving the square may not be
>>>>>>>>>>> the right message. You already communicated that, and it may hurt us. We
>>>>>>>>>>> may decide that we do want to leave the square. We may decide many other
>>>>>>>>>>> things in regard to negotiation and diplomacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sage
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Gregg Housh <
>>>>>>>>>>> greggatghc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I just got off the phone with the person who has been my
>>>>>>>>>>>> go-between for me and Menino, its a close friend of his.  Before I called
>>>>>>>>>>>> him, Menino already had.  Menino is still of the mindset that we should
>>>>>>>>>>>> come to some sort of mediated agreement with him to get off the land, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe still have use of it or something similar to that.  I told our mutual
>>>>>>>>>>>> friend to call him back and tell him we want a meeting this week.  I also
>>>>>>>>>>>> told him that we have no plans of leaving the square, but that a meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>> before any sort of action on his part would be a good idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is where we stand with the Mayor right now.  He gave our
>>>>>>>>>>>> mutual friend no indication of moving on us tonight or even soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will write back when I hear back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
>>>>>>>>>>>> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  WELL DONE.  This definitely "trumps" the regular 7:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting for media.  I will be down as soon as I wrap up a couple of things
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the office.  Deb Sirotkin Butler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Elias Feghali <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Eric thinks emergency GA, and I agree. Have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emailed facilitation about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have tweeted and facebook'd telling people to come to Dewey.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headed to camp, will be there around 5-515.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Going to send emergency text as soon as we confirm emergency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GA. Going to say something like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BREAKING: judge rules against Occupy Boston. Nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protecting us from being raided. Emergency general assembly tonight 7pm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dewey sq. Please come if you can!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Rachel Plattus <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rachelbp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rita and I are here--no one else in the media tent. Imagine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press will be arriving soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on the vigil--other thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel Berliner Plattus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rachelbp at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (203)-676-2280
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Elias Feghali <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efeghali at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Do we want to message to emergency TXT system and let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them know? That's what Ursala from NLG wanted me to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Invite them to camp for a 24/7 vigil tonight? Last I hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were talking about having a 24/7 vigil in honor of the 1st amendment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if we lost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not going to send anything until I hear from folks. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need all hands on deck. We could get raided tonight. If you can be at camp,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please be there tonight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Occupy Eric <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupyeric at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just got a call from Ben, one of the OB lawyers, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judge ruling the case has ruled against our case and has lifted the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Temporary Restraining Order. Ben asked me to disseminate this info widely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen the ruling and don't know the reasoning of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please pass the word on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solidarity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> or where you go to see people you like; it's where your boundaries are
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