[Street] OB Actions
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Wed Jan 11 21:52:57 EST 2012
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Hi plz let me clarify one thing: we do not control how the police,
and the city choose to allocate their resources. to date Boston PD
has been reasonable (especially compared to say oakland) it is
conceivable that there will be little or no police presence and we
will not be wasting any of their resources.
the resources part comes in to play in places like NYC where
occupiers are met with large scale police deployments. this is a
method to counteract that sort of police intimidation.
I do expect that as we start staying in spaces longer and holding
outreach (and inreach) on these sort of important topics that the
police will show up in Boston, but i do not think we should argue
or give them a hard time. leave when they say to and relocate to
the next space if they choose to come along that is their call (and
thier waste of resource will not be our fault)
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:07:27 -0500 Patricia Downer
<patricia.downer at gmail.com> wrote:
>I think the PDtag could be a potentially fun/light way to gather
>in a group
>that advances our cause and lets us focus on something other than
>some of
>these big issues we've been working through during GAs.
>
>I do have one personal concern about one of the things I've heard
>people
>say about PDtag is that one of the "points" is to waste the police
>resources. I have STRONG concerns about that regarding how it will
>make us
>look to the public. I do not think that side of it will earn us
>any good
>will at all and may greatly damage our already fragile public
>image.
>
>I think Josh's idea to some how link PDtag with Occupy MBTA is
>potentially
>interesting. I'd say go for it if and only if we check with the
>groups who
>we're trying to coordinate with on this and see if they are
>comfortable
>with that. I know there has been a lot of concern and discusson
>within this
>group of our role in the Occupy MBTA should be a role of support
>to the
>existing community organizations already fighting this. But if
>they're cool
>with it, I say it's a great opportunity for some unique and
>effective
>protests.
>
>Patricia Downer
>
>
>On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Deborah Fortson
><tempest at rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> I love the idea of doing actions to inform the public of exactly
>what it
>> is that banks do that is in the way of economic recovery, how
>they stand in
>> the way of small business regenerating, what they have done
>about mortgages
>> that was deceitful and harmful (I'll bet some people still don't
>really
>> know how that went down) How they're tied in to the
>organizations like AIG
>> and Goldman Sachs . (I don't know exactly how, but it would be
>interesting
>> to find out)
>>
>> street theater? signs? cantastorias?
>>
>> Deborah Lake (CASA)
>> 617-731-9697
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Eli Cohen wrote:
>>
>> I like it! Reading this
>story<http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/01/05/wild-old-women-
>close-san-francisco-bank-of-america-branch/>gave me a similar
>idea, since it showed just how quick they are to close
>> their doors. Every BoA action Occupy has done, they've shut the
>doors on
>> us... and as far as I'm concerned, that's fine! If they want to
>close the
>> doors, that's a win for us (it stops us from closing our
>accounts, but
>> prevents them from doing business). I know some people will be
>> uncomfortable discussing details here (security culture, etc.),
>but I could
>> see some kind of sustained action at a couple banks, or closing
>a different
>> bank every day, or a coordinated action at every big bank in the
>city, or
>> something else I'm not even thinking of right now. Who knows!?
>Let's work
>> on it.
>>
>> -Eli
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Kevin Maley
><kevinmaley at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> So a few of us have been having some conversations about a
>focused and
>>> sustained campaign on the financial institutions, specifically
>the
>>> mega-banks. This would include actions like today's at BNY
>Mellon and the
>>> BofA action we did during the Day of Action. It would also
>include
>>> informing the public about things they can do (transfer to
>credit unions)
>>> and the egregious things the big banks do; such as basically
>taking over
>>> public policy, making huge investments in dirty coal and
>mountain top
>>> removal, and foreclosing on millions of Americans, often
>illegally.
>>>
>>> We were going to do it as either a subset of street or probably
>a
>>> separate working group, since its focused on a specific target,
>but would
>>> involve street action and so wanted to collaborate and get
>people aboard
>>> who wanted to join. I think we are looking to meet next weekend
>(the one
>>> after MLK) but times not sure. So if you want in let me know
>>>
>>> Also thinking back to the Day of Action/Unity Rally, it was a
>really
>>> unique thing that really brought everyone together. With recent
>events at
>>> OB getting really ugly internally, I think it would help us as
>a movement
>>> to try something like that again soon, or otherwise plan some
>big action
>>> that can help us look outward and keep moving. Maybe a bank
>action, maybe
>>> something separate, maybe a lot of separate actions like the
>DofA. Not sure
>>> what it would look like but just wanted throw that out there as
>I think it
>>> would be good for people at Occupy Boston
>>>
>>> keep on truckin'
>>> Kev
>>>
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