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An idea is brewing about fundraising and our anniversary ... anyone
interested?<br>
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I urged the below addresses to join s30.<br>
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Is, e<br>
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<td>Re: [Community_forum] FAWG changes</td>
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<td>Kendra Moyer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kendramoy8@hotmail.com"><kendramoy8@hotmail.com></a></td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:congdirccb@gmail.com"><congdirccb@gmail.com></a>, Gregory Murphy
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:obit@lists.occupyboston.org">obit@lists.occupyboston.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dana@occupyboston.org">dana@occupyboston.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:unioncarpenter40@yahoo.com">unioncarpenter40@yahoo.com</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:richlevyus@yahoo.com">richlevyus@yahoo.com</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asnevitt@gmail.com">asnevitt@gmail.com</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:m@occupyboston.org">m@occupyboston.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matthewk@theherbalcurrent.com">matthewk@theherbalcurrent.com</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dcheeno@occupyboston.org">dcheeno@occupyboston.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ob-finance@lists.mayfirst.org">ob-finance@lists.mayfirst.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kbates@accessstrategies.org">"kbates@accessstrategies.org"</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:community_forum@lists.occupyboston.org">community_forum@lists.occupyboston.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cc2manj@verizon.net">cc2manj@verizon.net</a></td>
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Hi All<br>
<br>
I would also like to thank Greg for his hard work in FAWG. In
the near future it seems two things will happen. We will have a
fiscal sponsor and we will have nearly depleted out funding.
With the year anniversary on the horizon, I think it is high time
to begin to actively fund raise if we are to continue into the
future. OB Radio is planning some fundraising for the year
anniversary. <br>
<br>
The wider OB community should be thinking about a few things
regarding how we spend money and our standards for reaching
decisions about money. What is our immediate plan for staying
afloat with or without funding?<br>
<br>
The Participatory budget process should be discussed seriously and
in a spirit of unity. We should plan some sort of fund raiser to
commemorate the one year anniversary of OB and regenerate
interest.<br>
<br>
We might want to discuss whether or not we have enough actively
engaged people to continue into another year with programming,
lectures, direct actions, web hosting, community gatherings etc.
if the participation is lackluster <br>
<br>
Are enough people engaged to continue at the rate we had been
going? To be brief, if people are no longer interested in being
as active as before, we have to acknowledge and accept that and
move on. <br>
If we do continue we need to establish and live up to standards
that will sustain us and not further break down and divide the
group.<br>
<br>
On example I have harped on is fewer and more meaningful events
with more active publicity, careful and consistent preparation and
lead time to generate interest. <br>
<br>
I am sure that others would like to add their own thoughts. <br>
<br>
Peace,<br>
Kendra<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:26:56 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: FAWG changes<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:congdirccb@gmail.com">congdirccb@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gsjmurphy@gmail.com">gsjmurphy@gmail.com</a><br>
CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kendramoy8@hotmail.com">kendramoy8@hotmail.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:KBates@accessstrategies.org">KBates@accessstrategies.org</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dana@occupyboston.org">dana@occupyboston.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:unioncarpenter40@yahoo.com">unioncarpenter40@yahoo.com</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:m@occupyboston.org">m@occupyboston.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:richlevyus@yahoo.com">richlevyus@yahoo.com</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dcheeno@occupyboston.org">dcheeno@occupyboston.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ob-finance@lists.mayfirst.org">ob-finance@lists.mayfirst.org</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:community_forum@lists.occupyboston.org">community_forum@lists.occupyboston.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trcmoscato@gmail.com">trcmoscato@gmail.com</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asnevitt@gmail.com">asnevitt@gmail.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cc2manj@verizon.net">cc2manj@verizon.net</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ambepaw@gmail.com">ambepaw@gmail.com</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matthewk@theherbalcurrent.com">matthewk@theherbalcurrent.com</a><br>
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<font size="4"><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Thank
you Greg. I too respect and appreciate your long service
with OB and FAWG and your offer to continue to do the
bookkeeping. I hope and trust you will continue to find ways
to stay present and engaged with this community. (This feel
formal to me, but appropriate given the wide audience).<br>
<br style="font-family:times new roman,serif">
</span><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Personally,
I would like to revisit the participatory budget process
that was so unfortunately sidelined. I would like to do that
whatever money we have, even or perhaps especially, if we
spend down all that we currently hold in the mean time.</span></font>
<font size="4"><font face="times new roman,serif">I would like
to talk about that with you and any other interested people.</font></font><br>
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<font size="4">The actions you are taking are
consistent, I believe, with what we decided or agreed
to move toward at the mtg in JP earlier this summer.
(I have concerns about how you are feeling about this
email, though I won't address those, or my feelings,
in this email thread.) The bottom line at that
meeting, as I recall it, was that both you and Matt
would announce and then follow-through with taking
your names off both the accounts and DBA as soon as
possible. People can look at the notes from that
meeting and ask questions of those who were there,
listed on those notes. I ask that we not use this list
for that purpose. Nonetheless, I am <br>
<br>
I think we need to meet as soon as possible, with an
advance announcement of such meeting on the community
forum, saa and any other email lists folks want, as
well as on the FB Discussion page and possibly other
ways I haven't listed. (I thought of listing it on the
web page but that might not be appropriate-not sure).
I have more flexibility during week days but recognize
that is probably not true of most people, so we should
probably aim for an evening meeting, perhaps before a
GA or SAA. When can people meet? If those who want to
participate could reply to all, to that effect, we
could start to pin down a mtg date and place. Or if
there are other ideas about next steps, it would be
good to hear those too.<br>
<br>
In making any transfer, which I hope will be for a
short interim period while we decide whether/how to go
forward with a fiscal sponsorship, I hope we can see
if the bank account can be held by the individual
signatory (signatories?) "In trust for Occupy Boston",
and make a similar change in the process of
transferring the DBA. I suggest, Greg, that you don't
start by asking if this can be done but just present
it to the bank and the city as what you want and
expect to be done. I have a checking account which is
in my name and in trust for my children. I expect that
the legalities of holding these assets in this way, in
trust for an unincorporated or otherwise legally
unrecognized entity, will be murky, but more
consistent with the reality than not.<br>
<br>
In preparation for a meeting and/or other potential
action, it seems important to know as exactly as we
can ho much money is in the bank account, what amounts
have been approved for purposes and have not yest been
distributed. Thank you for itemizing OB's current
monthly expenses-are those all of them? Would you like
help assembling those numbers?</font> </div>
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<font size="4">Thanks again, Greg.<br>
<br>
In Solidarity,<br>
Linda </font><br>
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<hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
NEFreedom Ride <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:15 PM<br>
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Re: FAWG changes<br>
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<div>Hi Greg:
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<div>Thanks for the email, and I remain available
to help as best as I am able (as limited as that
is).</div>
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<div>I can meet you at the CU anytime to make the
required changes. We should also work to get
your auto-charges from the debit card in your
name switched to my debit card. Perhaps we
should try and do that prior to the
name-removal.</div>
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<div>You're dedication and passion for FAWG and
OB will never be forgotten. THANK YOU for all
the work you've done!</div>
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<div> - matthewk<span></span></div>
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On Tuesday, August 21, 2012, Deborah Sirotkin
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with my husband's stage IV pancreatic
cancer and the long slow goodbye of cancer
death that I am pretty much not available
at this time though I do wish, and
appreciate, being kept in the loop. Deb</font></b><br>
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<div>On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Gregory
Murphy <span dir="ltr"><<a
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target="_blank">gsjmurphy@gmail.com</a>></span>
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Kelly, Linda and Matt, et. al.,<br>
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I write to inform you that I will be
taking my name off the Liberty Bay Credit
Union account, as soon as I can get there
to fill out a removal form, which will
also need your signature, Matt. In
addition, I will be stepping down from a
public role in FAWG. Please let me
explain.<br>
<br>
It has become clear to me that since I
strongly feel that OB's General Assembly,
as now constructed, does not truly
represent Occupy Boston, I feel it is a
conflict of interest for me to remain an
active FAWG member, and certainly in a
money handing role. It is hypocritical of
me to maintain such a role given my
belief. Kelly and Linda, in our last
conversation, you both made clear that you
support GA as OB's decision making body.
I simply do not, and believe that,
somehow, someway, a new OB Governance
structure needs to be put in place. And,
I do not believe a new Governance system
can be created from within GA. Much like
the systems OB has formed to overturn, new
structures need to be created to replace
the broken ones, I do not believe change
can happen from within the system.<br>
<br>
New OB Governance was one of the three
areas the larger group of 15 or so people,
who met in April (as a community follow up
to OB's Camp Charlie finance
conversation), agreed upon was a
necessity, along with OB addressing its
issues of Liability and Accounting. FAWG
is making slow (but hopefully) steady
progress on the last two topics, yet no
progress has been made, or even attempted,
on the Governance issue. I would gladly
attend and contribute to discussions on
this issue, if they ever are to occur.<br>
<br>
I will gladly continue a bookkeeping role
if you would like, at minimum, through the
August bank reconciliation, or as long as
needed to ensure a successful transfer of
that responsibility, once decisions are
made on how best to proceed with that
issue.<br>
<br>
<br>
On another point, Matt, we owe you an
apology. You were unable to attend the
initial meeting with United for Fair
Economy, a couple of months ago, and, as a
group, we have been remiss not to keep you
(as an OB credit union account holder) in
the loop as to follow up actions.. I did
forward you the notes, from that meeting -
notes, I now also realize, which would
have been proper to post on the FAWG
wiki. I will make sure that now happens.
We failed to invite you to a followup
conference call, held recently with UFE
and some advisers, on the viability, pros
and cons, and possible structure of a
fiscal agent. Kendra, Kelly, Linda and
myself from OB were on that call, as were
Brian Miller of UFE, some of his
colleagues, and advisers from<span
style="font-size:10pt"> <span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Alliance
for Global Justice, </span></span><span>Alliance
for Justice and the Tides Foundation</span>.
I will make sure you get those minutes and
I will also post those minutes on the
wiki.<br>
<br>
<br>
I spoke with our banker, who explained the
removal process and how to add new signers
to the account. Removal is simple: I fill
out a form which both myself, and Matt, as
the other account holder, need to sign.
Matt, you will also need to fill out a new
form, as the (new) sole account holder. If
an If your address has changed, you will
need that form to be notarized. If anyone
from OB would like to step forward and
become an account holder, that person (or
people, because there can be up to three
signers) could also fill out the same
form, providing notarized copies of ID.
All this can happen remotely, or in
person, at the credit union. Matt, please
let me know how we can execute this. We
could use the mail service, or meet in
person.<br>
<br>
I will also submit a DBA removal form at
the City Clerk's office. As you know, way
back when, I filed a DBA in my name, doing
business as Occupy Boston Financial
Accountability Working Group. I think
there is a fee to submit that removal
form, and if so, it will be my last use of
the OB debit card to pay for that
service. I will not tell Liberty Bay I am
doing this, but will confirm, if I am
asked.<br>
<br>
Decisions need to be made quickly
concerning how best to replace the debit
card, which is in my name: it is used to
pay for OB storage in Quincy
(automatically at $293/month), by Intuit
for our QuickBooks platform (also
automatically, at $33 something per
month), and to pay for our MayFirst
service (currently executed online, by
yours truly, for $100/month.) I will
review when the last payments were made
and when the next ones are due., and
report that information. The obvious,
simplest answer may be to use your debit
card, Matt, so you need to make a decision
about that, ASAP. Another possibility is
to get a new debit card for the OB WePay
General Fund, and use that. Matt, I think
you can execute that request, am I
correct?<br>
<br>
I am ccing <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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