[Ob-media-multi] [Ob-media-external] [Ob-media] IMPORTANT: Cancelling Today's Meeting and an Important Conversation to Come About the Structure of Media WG
Joshua Eaton
jeaton at post.harvard.edu
Tue Apr 17 21:51:10 EDT 2012
Dear All (and Greg, especially),
Sorry to have been so short. I can completely understand why folks would
say that Media is in insular center of power; my frustration with someone
saying that is just that actually being in Media feels incredibly
*disempowering.* Does that make any sense?
Best,
Joshua
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Gregory Murphy <gsjmurphy at gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, sitting an talking is good . . . email is a tough medium, as we know
> . .
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Jorge Alvarez <eghm627 at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> I have to agree, but I don't think it's being done in a nefarious manner.
>>
>> Greg, and he must speak for himself, is attempting to hold us all
>> accountable.
>>
>> But I don't think he and others are as sensitive as they could
>> potentially be to how oppressively they are acting towards their comrades
>> in attempting to counteract oppression. It's a very difficult balancing act
>> and he admittedly says we're in difficult and uncharted territory.
>>
>> Aggressive indictments of power insularity, oppression and equity can be
>> used as a bludgeon and I think that is what some of us (at GAs, FWG, Media,
>> et al.) are feeling.
>>
>> Sometimes, even as a Hispanic man who grew up in modest means, I feel
>> oppressed by Anti-Oppression as recently at OB.
>>
>> Greg, we all have to sit and talk about this.
>>
>> This thread should go out widely, but I don't know how to not spam people
>> who don't desire to be part of this conversation or even if it's
>> appropriate.
>>
>> With peace,
>> Jorge
>> eghm627 at mac.com
>>
>> This email was composed on my IPhone. Please excuse any errors.
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <amberpaw at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joshua - I think it is this kind of comment and this kind of perception
>> which is causing so many to want to quit, when we see ourselves not as a
>> "power center' but as infrastructure, and serving a community. Deb
>> Sirotkin Butler
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Joshua Eaton <jeaton at post.harvard.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure I appreciate the suggestion that Media has become an
>>> "insular power center."
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Gregory Murphy <gsjmurphy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> it's a fascinating study - the insular power centers in OB which
>>>> inadvertently and unintentionally develop as we dedicate ourselves to doing
>>>> the best job possible, yet often end up replicating the dominant structures
>>>> we assembled to oppose - this horizontal democracy stuff sure is
>>>> challenging!
>>>>
>>>> GM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Deborah Sirotkin Butler <
>>>> amberpaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 to cancelimg today's Media meeting. Maybe a focused GA to
>>>>> facilitate the evolution of OB media like the GA that focused on FAWG would
>>>>> be good horizontal democracy to best handle those. As for me I have felt
>>>>> honored to ne part of the hard working and under appreciated media wg
>>>>> Deb amberpaw on droid
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2012 12:29 PM, "Dan" <dcheeno at occupyboston.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good afternoon Media WG,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As many of you may already be aware, several members of Media WG
>>>>>> have, over the past few days, discovered that we possess a shared sense of
>>>>>> dissatisfaction at the work that we do as a working group. Furthermore,
>>>>>> the Occupy Boston community has, to varying degrees, repeatedly expressed
>>>>>> discomfort and frustration with our work; some groups and members of the
>>>>>> community, in particular, have indicated that they feel disempowered by the
>>>>>> current structures and policies that empower us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the past few days, conversations have ranged from: a desire
>>>>>> amongst several of us to simply step back; to an idea of creating an
>>>>>> unmanaged infrastructure that empowers working groups; to suggestions that
>>>>>> Media WG be dissolved in the hopes that the wider Occupy Boston community
>>>>>> could find a satisfactory way to manage Media WG's resources and access
>>>>>> (and enough of us may want to step back that it would be unfair to leave
>>>>>> those who don't want to step back to take on so much). The point is,
>>>>>> though, that many of us feel that we ought to / want to step back or
>>>>>> significantly restructure the working group to address the concerns of the
>>>>>> working group's members and of the OB community--and that, no matter what,
>>>>>> a significant change is coming that will affect you, the working group, and
>>>>>> the entire community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The purpose of this email, then, is to inform you (and, we realize,
>>>>>> the entire community) that these conversations about things not really
>>>>>> working for anyone are happening and to invite you to be a part of them at
>>>>>> our next working group meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime, today is a busy day and, because of the dismantling
>>>>>> of Camp Charlie and Andy's service, it seems that the most appropriate
>>>>>> thing to do at this late hour is to cancel today's meeting. Temp check?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If today's regularly scheduled meeting is cancelled, though, it still
>>>>>> seems that conversations about the role of Media WG are in order, and
>>>>>> several of us will likely be around at Camp Charlie to have those
>>>>>> conversations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Joshua A. Eaton, MDiv
>>>
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>> _______________________________________________
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