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Thanks. Helpful. <br>
<br>
Would like to eventually see an "information flow" so that the
beginner can see a consistent predictable set of steps to get a
proposal passed.<br>
<br>
Would like several tracks depending on the topic. Like if it's to
get OB solidarity statement for an action/march, it's one track. If
it's a proposal for money, another track. If it's to declare a
"principle of which we stand for", another track. Mike and I
developed the concept last night on the phone. He'll be talking
about it, I believe. <br>
<br>
I'll jot my notes, if for no other purpose than to remember what I
thought.<br>
<br>
Perhaps have different "certain times" for different tracks. So at
7:30, the money proposals start. At 8:00, the march/action
proposals start. And then the ideas type principle wagglers can
talk infinitum, or til the building closes at the end. It's to
separate the different parts of the brain. <br>
<br>
Like when I'm on the action track, the last thing I want to do is
sit still for a long principled discussion. I just want to know if
my event/press release is good to go. Same if I want money. When
I'm not working on a specific event, and my brain is in "ideas"
mode, I want a patient, thoughtful conversation the results in
principled statements. Perhaps if a proposal in one of the other
tracks isn't mature enough or people don't think it fits within an
existing principle, it can get "bounced" to the ideas track, maybe a
fourth track could be for proposal workshopping. But short stuff,
like temp checks and 5 minutes per type of thing. No endless
discussion. I can't take that at the GA level. And will leave the
track and bushwack my own way around it...outside OB. For OB to be
"useful", it's got to be "functional". It's got to be a "tool" for
the activist, an incubator for the visionary, and a safe place for
the injured... <br>
<br>
Another idea would be for the march/action proposals to go right
after announcements, where if you have an announcement for a march
that is going to be considered for a solidarity statement, you skip
the announcement and do it as part of the solidarity proposal.<br>
<br>
I don't care. I'd just like to know when things are happening, so I
can both predictably "operate" as well as teach people who want to
do whatever. Our ability to oppress people is leveraged when we
change the process constantly, so that only the insiders can figure
out WTF the process is...<br>
<br>
With all due respect... <img
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On 3/3/2012 12:30 PM, Gregory Murphy wrote:
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cite="mid:CAOjvX2moyp4=M+UZYQ4-YH5X1DE_nFUExRLe3CLg-D33kDhhwQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I forward GAPaP's minutes from the first meeting . .
. seven of us at the first meeting<br>
<br>
GM<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Charlie DeTar</b> <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cfd@fohn.org">cfd@fohn.org</a>></span><br>
Date: Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:03 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [GAPaP] yesterday's meeting?<br>
To: Dennis Fox <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:denfox@gmail.com">denfox@gmail.com</a>>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gapap@lists.occupyboston.org">gapap@lists.occupyboston.org</a><br>
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<br>
On 03/03/2012 10:06 AM, Dennis Fox wrote:<br>
> Did the group meet yesterday? Any notes? Next meeting?<br>
<br>
I just uploaded the notes. They're here:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/GAPaP/2012Mar2"
target="_blank">http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/GAPaP/2012Mar2</a>
(also linked from the<br>
main GAPaP page, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/GA_process_and_purpose"
target="_blank">http://wiki.occupyboston.org/wiki/GA_process_and_purpose</a>
)<br>
<br>
We didn't decide on a time for a next meeting yet. Here's yet
another<br>
scheduling poll to figure out a time. I know these polls are
super<br>
annoying and unfriendly, but it may still be the easiest thing
to use.<br>
Ignore the specific days-of-the-month on this poll -- our goal
is to<br>
come up with a regular meeting time. So just pay attention to
the time,<br>
and the day of the week. I included options for 4pm-9pm on
weekdays and<br>
9am-9pm on weekends.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GAPaP_regular_meeting_time/"
target="_blank">http://schedule.occupy.net/OB_GAPaP_regular_meeting_time/</a><br>
<br>
Also, here's a scratch pad for us to start working on an agenda
for the<br>
next meeting:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://notes.occupy.net/p/LIGjTt074O" target="_blank">http://notes.occupy.net/p/LIGjTt074O</a><br>
<br>
best,<br>
Charlie<br>
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